Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
That's not exactly proselytizing. For instance, they're not telling me I'm going to burn in hell if I don't eat there.
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Is spreading your religion correct?
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That's not exactly proselytizing. For instance, they're not telling me I'm going to burn in hell if I don't eat there.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
A usual analogy that is offered is that if you see a chair and believe it is a chair and will hold you up, you believe in the chair. when you sit on it you are believing on the chair.
That's not inherently part of proselytizing.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
By definition, advertising is proselytizing. Methods may vary.
So... for a person to be saved, he sits on Jesus?
Yet it forms part of so many forms of it. In fact, I'd say that something like it is part of the proselytizing for any non-universalist religion.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Now you understand, grasshopper.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Not by the definitions I've seen. Frankly, I'm not a big fan of advertising either, which is why I love my Tivo. However, as I alluded to, the biggest difference is that it's not a life and death question when it comes to Wendy's. It's not about changing my life. It's about eating their food, and hopefully liking it. Proselytizing has the goal of chaning my entire outlook on the world.
HoldemDB9
Active Member
So what about people who have an equal amount of faith in a false religion, do they get saved also? If not, then why?
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Well, in fact, recently uncovered scrolls written in the hand of the prophet himself, Dave Thomas, say exactly this. Also, Wendical scholars have deciphered these chilling prophecies telling of a future where the armies of The Clown (McDonald's), The King (BK), and the Crimson Queen (Wendy's) coverge in the parking lot of the Meggido Strip Mall for an apocalypic final battle.
XXV, 6: There is no other head of the Restaurant but Wendy. Nor can the King of Burger, in any sense, be head thereof; but is that Anti-Wendy, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Restaurant, against Wendy and all that is called fast food.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
I'd like to buy the world a home
And furnish it with love
Grow apple trees and honey bees
And snow white turtle doves.
I'd like to teach the world to sing
In perfect harmony
I'd like to buy the world a Coke
And keep it company
That's the real thing.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Not by Jesus. Misplaced faith is not effective.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
And? (Yes, I see what you're trying to say, but I'm trying to make it into something relevant.)
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
The point is that people will listen to almost anything, even things that speak of life and death situations (for example which heart hospital you attend), without offense, except religion.
HoldemDB9
Active Member
So do you believe they are going to Hell? And how is it fair that misplaced faith is not effective? What about all of the people in the world who are trying harder to find truth than most Christians? Do you honestly believe that God punishes and rewards based on whether or not our beleifs are true?
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
And, as I've explained, that's because those advertisements aren't meant to change your perspective on life in general. They are much narrower in focus. Also, as I said, and many would agree, I don't like ads anyway, which is why I skip them whenever possible, kind of like the way I skip proselytizing. Advertising also doesn't say that my drinking Pepsi is wrong, just that they would rather me drink Coke.
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
That's the biblical position.
Where did you come up with the concept that life was fair?
I believe that the God of truth will lead them.
When it comes to belief in the true God, yes He does.
Speaking for myself, I do find certain ads offensive... e.g. the one you mentioned that suggests that love and togetherness is somehow dependent on me drinking Coca Cola.
That ShamWOW guy bugs me, too.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Speaking for myself, I do find certain ads offensive... e.g. the one you mentioned that suggests that love and togetherness is somehow dependent on me drinking Coca Cola.
That ShamWOW guy bugs me, too.
Who the heck is he talking to on that headset anyway?
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
Who said anything about life? We're talking about your God here, and last I checked, the claim was that he was fair. Are you saying he's not?
sandy whitelinger
Veteran Member
Fair, as used in the Bible describes weather and women.
Would you consider it fair to get on the wrong side of a God whom is omnipotent, omnicient, and always correct?