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Is the evolutionary doctrine a racist doctrine?

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I know you avoid the word "race" but it is a reality.
Yes, a social reality. Genetically H. sapiens has pretty low genetic diversity.
Think on this: there were races in old Homo sapiens; one of them may have been what you call Neanderthal ... just some variations in their bodies, but still humans.
They may have been 'human', but they were not the same species.
Genetic variations follow laws they can't break ...
OK.... what does this mean, and how does it apply to the subject at hand?
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Okay, now you're just making stuff up.

No, that's not something I have ever said, nor is it necessarily anything to do with how evolution actually works.

Are you operating on the assumption that evolution requires cross-species breeding?


I've explained this three times already. They never stop producing what they are, BUT THEY PRODUCE VARIATIONS OF WHAT THEY ARE. Everything that lives is a VARIATION of what came before it.


You seem very confused by this concept, so I will attempt to explain it in a way that children can understand:

Both you and your cousin are very different. But you and your cousin both have the same grandparents. You are both descended from the same group of people, even though you and your cousin have marked differences. Do you understand?


What on earth are you talking about?
I think she chooses not to understand
 

Balthazzar

N. Germanic Descent
Why would it be racist? I do know that my origins are Scandinavian. Can you guess eye and hair color traits? I'm not sure why, but our environments seem to play a role in our genetics.
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
Why would it be racist? I do know that my origins are Scandinavian. Can you guess eye and hair color traits? I'm not sure why, but our environments seem to play a role in our genetics.
There's evolutionary biology, which is science, and apparently there's something out there called "evolutionary doctrine" - which isn't from science.

It's probably what's behind white supremacism. It seems like a notion that lighter skinned humans evolved from darker skinned humans is the basis of this unscientific "evolutionary doctrine" - I don't know. Whatever the specifics are of the case, this sort of unscientific notion is indeed racist.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There's evolutionary biology, which is science, and apparently there's something out there called "evolutionary doctrine" - which isn't from science
What on Earth is evolutionary doctrine? Link?
It's probably what's behind white supremacism. It seems like a notion that lighter skinned humans evolved from darker skinned humans is the basis of this unscientific "evolutionary doctrine" - I don't know. Whatever the specifics are of the case, this sort of unscientific notion is indeed racist.
It does sound sketchy, I agree.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
What is the difference between a Homo Sapiens and a Neanderthal?

None...just the name. :shrug:
First of all, scientists are divided as to whether the Neanderthals were a separate species, or a subgroup of homo sapiens. Nonetheless, there are certain traits the make it very easy to identify a Neanderthal skeleton:
  • Larger noses
  • Skull shape was lower and longer
  • Heavier jaws
  • Shorter and stockier
  • Deep set eyes with heavy brows
  • Almost no chin
  • Wider pelvis
  • Larger hands with less fine motor skill
  • Noticeable differences in the bones of the middle ear
  • A body less structured for long distance pursuit

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YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
So do the evolutionists here believe all life including plants and animals came from a common ancestor?
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
New news or newer news has it that organisms can evolve BACK to whence they came. What a find!!
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
What on Earth is evolutionary doctrine?
It's something in the title of this thread; for more details, ask @Eli G , the originator of this thread.


:grinning:
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
So do the evolutionists here believe all life including plants and animals came from a common ancestor?

You do realize that common ancestor was single-celled, right? So some cells acquired the organelles for photosynthesis and others did not. They then evolved apart.
It does hmm. So some mutations became plants and others became animals. That is sooo stupid imo of course.
Yes, some mutations *from single celled ancestors* eventually lead to animals and others eventually lead to plants. The time between the single celled ancestors and multicellular animals or plants was quite long.
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
If you go to one of the "trace your ancestry web sites," many of these sites now allow you to mail in a DNA sample, and they can trace your ancestry to different parts of the world, down to specific regions within specific countries. For example, in Europe alone, the site Ancestry.com claims they can estimate your ancestry from within 1765 regions of just Europe alone, plus all the other continents, countries and many of their regions. It appears shallow regional differences can appear on human DNA in a relativity short period of time.

Ethnicity Estimate | Next-generation AncestryDNA®

This brings up the question, if regional ethnic bits and pieces, can appear on our DNA, in a short period of time and linger to be seen centuries later, how about things like religions, that have been the central feature of all civilizations for thousands of years. Do we have religious genes on our human DNA? Would hate of religions. therefore be similar to being a racist, if religions have genes similar to race and ethnicity? These genes would impact behavior such as an enhanced imagination.

This could explain how many similar features appear in religions, over time, from regionally unrelated cultures. Christianity, for example, has many features from a common religious ancestry; part of the evolution of neural behavioral coding.

In the middle East, where the Muslim religion is still a strong central feature of many cultures, and behavior for selective advantage in culture is based on religion, this is very similar to selective behavior in any given ecosystem. There are also selective disadvantages that are enforced to speed up the process of coding. This may be good place to see how fast the DNA can change or reach a steady state. It also means ethnicity may not be fixed, but a moving target; speed of change. This speed may only apply to humans, since we have will and choice, and therefore can game natural selection with what can be called willful human selection and willful human selective advantages.
 
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