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Is the evolutionary doctrine a racist doctrine?

Eli G

Well-Known Member
You need some update now that you can learn a lot of things for free, LOL.
I won't waste my time on making your homework anymore.
Have a great day.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
"Minor differences"? LOL.

Another sample about what those "minor [brain] differences" can cause in mental activity:... dexterity and tool use, an articulate vocal tract, symbolic language, and the ability to reason and problem-solve.
Yes, humans have greater hand dexterity than other apes, but then again, Chimps have much better smell than humans.

Took use? All apes use tools. The difference is one of degree. But essentially a termite tool kit is just as much a tool as a rocket ship.

Yes, humans have a mutation that means we can form far more sounds, and therefore have a larger vocabulary. But Chimps still have language, with a vocabulary of about 400 words. Koko the gorilla knew over 1000 words in American Sign Language, and could understand over 2000 English words. So again, the difference is one of degree, not substance.

Apes share all sorts of mental process with humans. They show the ability to solve puzzles, navigate mazes, and figure out multi-step tasks, reflecting reasoning and planning skills akin to human problem-solving. They have Theory of Mind (the ability to guess what someone else knows). Many apes pass the mirror test, showing they are self aware. They have CULTURE, meaning that many of the things they do are not instinctual, but learned from other apes. They have empathy and a sense of fairness -- the building blocks of an evolving morality.

And when it comes to memory, it's Chimps that are at the top of the Totem Pole, not Humans. In fact, they think there is a possibility that Chimps have photographic memory.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You need some update now that you can learn a lot of things for free, LOL.
I won't waste my time on making your homework anymore.
Have a great day.
As I explained, it was your claim. That puts the burden of proof upon you. If you cannot or refuse to properly support your claim when that burden of proof is upon you then there is no difference in that between simply admitting that you were wrong in the first place.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Another sample
I'm not sure where you are getting theses quotes from, but they are loaded with error. For example, you quoted this: "Humans can think about certain things and are motivated by their instincts, intellect and logic." One could make the same statement about apes. Then you quote: "Animals are incapable of reasoning and are simply motivated by their instincts." This is not the case at all. A bunch of animals are capable of reasoning. Certainly, the other apes are well known for this.

I suggest you ditch this website. It's pretty pitiful.

I suggest you watch more cat videos. Lot's and lots and lots of cat videos, so that you can see with your own eyes the many things their minds have in common with ours. Plus, they are just adorable to watch.

To sum it up, the idea that animals have no self awareness, no logic, no feelings, is an idea that has pretty much died under a mountain of research.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
You need some update now that you can learn a lot of things for free, LOL.
I won't waste my time on making your homework anymore.
OMGoodness. People are being very, very patient with you, but sooner or later you need to be responsible for your own learning. If YOU are the one making the claim, then YOU are the one that has to supply the evidence. That is YOUR homework, not ours.

For you to make a claim, and then tell someone it's THEIR job to look up YOUR evidence, is not only bad form, it's just rude.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
Yes, size is a minor difference. Here is the problem, as it stands now the burden of proof is upon you and you cannot support any of your claims.
Differences between animals' and humans' brain goes beyond size.
Microscopic study of the human brain has revealed neural structures, enhanced wiring, and forms of connectivity among nerve cells not found in any animal, challenging the view that the human brain is simply an enlarged chimpanzee brain. On the other hand, cognitive studies have found animals to have abilities once thought unique to the human. This suggests a disparity between brain and mind. The suggestion is misleading. Cognitive research has not kept pace with neural research. Neural findings are based on microscopic study of the brain and are primarily cellular. Because cognition cannot be studied microscopically, we need to refine the study of cognition by using a different approach. In examining claims of similarity between animals and humans, one must ask: What are the dissimilarities? This approach prevents confusing similarity with equivalence. We follow this approach in examining eight cognitive cases—teaching, short-term memory, causal reasoning, planning, deception, transitive inference, theory of mind, and language—and find, in all cases, that similarities between animal and human abilities are small, dissimilarities large. There is no disparity between brain and mind.

PS: There are so obvious facts that asking for proofs is unnecessary.

If others have to show patience to me, thanks, I deserve it, since I've been showing a lot of patience here to a lot of idiots. Sorry for hurting your ears.
 

Eli G

Well-Known Member
The human brain is unique: Our remarkable cognitive capacity has allowed us to invent the wheel, build the pyramids and land on the moon. In fact, scientists sometimes refer to the human brain as the “crowning achievement of evolution.”
But what, exactly, makes our brains so special? Some leading arguments have been that our brains have more neurons and expend more energy than would be expected for our size, and that our cerebral cortex, which is responsible for higher cognition, is disproportionately large—accounting for over 80 percent of our total brain mass.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Differences between animals' and humans' brain goes beyond size.


PS: There are so obvious facts that asking for proofs is unnecessary.

If others have to show patience to me, thanks, I deserve it, since I've been showing a lot of patience here to a lot of idiots. Sorry for hurting your ears.
FWIW, neither I or anyone else is making the claim that the human brain is simply an enlarged chimp brain. I think you have misunderstood us. There are subtle neurological differences between humans and other apes, just as there are differences in the brains between men and women. But there are no differences in intelligence between men and women. So be careful before you ascribe causation to what is at this time only correlation. The abstract you quoted makes the point that, "This approach prevents confusing similarity with equivalence." I would suggest to you to be just as diligent in not confusing differences with inequalities.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I think you need to read the whole article. LOL Size alone is not what is important. The largest brain in the world is not the human brain, but the brain of the sperm whale.

All I can do at this point is repeat a point I made before, but I think you missed it.

The differences between human thought and that of other apes is one of DEGREE, not substance. For example, all apes use tools, but human tools are rocket ships and computers. All apes have culture, but only humans dance the Conga. DEGREE, but not substance.

Best source on this topic by far is the lecture given by Dr. Robert Sapolsky, Neuroscientist and Primatologist, "Are Humans just another primate?" His answer is no, we are unique. But we are still, of course, primates. It's a horribly long video (over an hour) so I won't blame you if you pass it by, but I seldom recommend a video so strongly.

 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Nobody was talking to you, as much as nothing you just said has anything to do with what I just said.
Bye.
Um, these are public forums. People jump in and out of discussions all the time. If you would like to have a private conversation with someone in here where it is only the two of you talking and no one else, there is a feature for that. If you click on the envelope icon, you can choose "start a new conversation."
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Another sample
Humans can think about certain things and are motivated by their instincts, intellect and logic. Animals are incapable of reasoning and are simply motivated by their instincts.
Where did this piece of nonsense come from? You need to have a good look at what various non-human life are actually capable of before stating this non-evidential claim. But you won't of course.
 

HonestJoe

Well-Known Member
It was a quick turn... lol, in just a few months.

In a few more months, where will these ancestors of human beings have come from? From Australia? o_O
It's not quick (your links were from 2023 and 2016 respectively) and not a turn (these studies are about pre-human ancestors, not Homo Sapiens and don't counter the broader principle of a single region of origin and subsequent expansion across the world).

If you really want a better understanding of evolutionary theories, why not post your questions of science forums rather than a religious one?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Evolutionists invent new theories every time they discover a handful of bones that seem to be from early humans.

Nonsense, and jumping to conclusions minus evidence could destroy one's anthropological career.

Differences between animals' and humans' brain goes beyond size.

It's more proportion plus size. If you were to ever study primatology, you'd find that most general human behavior can be found with the great apes.
 
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