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Is the evolutionary doctrine a racist doctrine?

Valjean

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I don't even know what to think. First Africa, later Europe Human and ape ancestors arose in Europe, not in Africa, controversial study claims , and now Asia Out of Asia: Anthropoid Origins and the Colonization of Africa | Annual Reviews .

Com'on, give me a break.
It was a quick turn... lol, in just a few months.

In a few more months, where will these ancestors of human beings have come from? From Australia? o_O

:facepalm:
You seem to think that including new information into a study undermines it. Science is a research modality. It discovers new information and incorporates it into our understanding all the time. Unlike religion, it grows.
More information and new insights are science's strengths, not its weakness. Inasmuch as science is always incorporating new knowledge, it remains, as always, the most likely interpretation of reality we have.

Religion does no research. In fact, it traditionally discourages research, and penalizes anyone who questions its poorly evidenced doctrines or proposes anything new.
Accurate information is not found in blind acceptance of unevidenced and unquestionable dogma. Accuracy lies in actively acquiring new facts and incorporating them into a growing, changing body of knowledge.
 
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Valjean

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Evolutionists invent new theories every time they discover a handful of bones that seem to be from early humans.

In a futuristic scenario, many millions years after today, when a new archaeology is emerging from scratch ... what would the evolutionist speculators of the future invent if they excavated in the Sahara, Thailand, Peru, Ethiopia, etc.? How many supposed "primitive hominid species" would they attribute to our time? :oops:
The major, well-established theories and facts remain largely unchanged. It's new details and interpretation that nourish our understanding. Major theories are not always changing.

Archæologists and paleontologists a million years from now would conclude that in our time the existing hominids were chimps, humans, bonobos, gorillas and orangutans. What else would you expect them to conclude from the dated fossil evidence?

Primitive hominid species? How are you defining primitive? The term's ambiguous, with several common meanings.
 

Valjean

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Some participants in this forum have become so accustomed to not questioning their own beliefs that they can't even bring themselves to look up online resources that challenge their views.
It's you who don't question your own beliefs, and apparently are unaware of the countervailing facts. And it's you who doesn't seem to change his views when factually challenged.
Scientists and intellectuals do question their own beliefs. Trying to find flaws in or disprove hypotheses is what makes science science. It's the key to the whole Scientific Method.
If I inquire with Google's AI about the distinctions between the animal brain and the human brain, what response does it provide?
This is only a sample:

Com'on, try even once and stop talking nonsense.
It's a new era when old people need to get an update without cost. Information is now free to obtain. :)
But what sort of information will you get from AI? Common understandings, traditional usage, technical data, or hallucinations? Best rely on a contexed source or you won't know where the info's coming from.
You're also looking for differences. These must be assessed in the light of similarities -- which you seem to dismiss.
 

Valjean

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Another sample: " Humans can think about certain things and are motivated by their instincts, intellect and logic. Animals are incapable of reasoning and are simply motivated by their instincts."
Other animals do think and reason, as well as learn.
Brains, like other physical features, evolve to cope with the challenges of their particular niche and lifestyle. We're better at some things, other animals are better at other things.
 

Valjean

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Yes, humans have greater hand dexterity than other apes, but then again, Chimps have much better smell than humans.
And working memory, and strength. We all evolve what's useful within our own lifestyles.
Took use? All apes use tools. The difference is one of degree. But essentially a termite tool kit is just as much a tool as a rocket ship.
And complex tools would be useless to chimps, orangs or gorillas. They wouldn't increase their prosperity within their niche.
Yes, humans have a mutation that means we can form far more sounds, and therefore have a larger vocabulary. But Chimps still have language, with a vocabulary of about 400 words. Koko the gorilla knew over 1000 words in American Sign Language, and could understand over 2000 English words. So again, the difference is one of degree, not substance.
Nor is complex phonation needed for language. Some human languages employ only a dozen sounds.
Apes share all sorts of mental process with humans. They show the ability to solve puzzles, navigate mazes, and figure out multi-step tasks, reflecting reasoning and planning skills akin to human problem-solving. They have Theory of Mind (the ability to guess what someone else knows). Many apes pass the mirror test, showing they are self aware. They have CULTURE, meaning that many of the things they do are not instinctual, but learned from other apes. They have empathy and a sense of fairness -- the building blocks of an evolving morality.

And when it comes to memory, it's Chimps that are at the top of the Totem Pole, not Humans. In fact, they think there is a possibility that Chimps have photographic memory.
 

Valjean

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Differences between animals' and humans' brain goes beyond size.


PS: There are so obvious facts that asking for proofs is unnecessary.

If others have to show patience to me, thanks, I deserve it, since I've been showing a lot of patience here to a lot of idiots. Sorry for hurting your ears.
Yes, human and chimp brains are different, as are dog and cat brains, crow and raven brains and grey squirrel and red squirrel brains.
The salient question here is what significance you attribute to these differences.
You seem to be arguing that humans are a Special Creation, with a special status, apart from all other creatures.
 
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