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Is the inverted pentagram mandatory in the LHP?

agorman

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I feel Satan is being good to me, but is it mandatory to use the inverted pentagram in the Left Hand Path?

Wearing that symbol or putting it on my altar makes me nauseous/sick, either with the circle or without it. And it's not due to some disease; as soon as I put it upright the nausea ceases.
 

VoidCat

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I feel Satan is being good to me, but is it mandatory to use the inverted pentagram in the Left Hand Path?

Wearing that symbol or putting it on my altar makes me nauseous/sick, either with the circle or without it. And it's not due to some disease; as soon as I put it upright the nausea ceases.
You aint got to use an upside down pentagram
 

1137

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Being mandatory would defeat the purpose. But why does it make you ill?
 

agorman

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Being mandatory would defeat the purpose.

I thought maybe I had to show the spirits or gods that I'm in a LHP by using its most famous symbol. Also it's supposed to serve as a protection against evil luminous entities.

And sometimes I have the fear that my spiritual practices will unwillingly lead me to a Right Hand Path goal (end up believing I'm a Universal God, or feeling that we are all one, etc.). A LHP symbol gives me some security on this. Maybe because I had a very bad experience with Buddhism in 2008. Consciously I know this is a stupid fear; but sometimes you need something to counteract some silly subconscious programming.

Do you think probably a black moon would be a good LHP symbol? Or a black cube?

But why does it make you ill?

No idea why the bad stomach sensation. Maybe the inverted pentagram causes the elements to gather against me? Maybe it brings too much darkness to some chakras?
 

Setite

Setite
I feel Satan is being good to me, but is it mandatory to use the inverted pentagram in the Left Hand Path?

Wearing that symbol or putting it on my altar makes me nauseous/sick, either with the circle or without it. And it's not due to some disease; as soon as I put it upright the nausea ceases.
Wanna know why? It's in your head. Like the placebo effect. Your subconscious is ruling mere symbols. It's not so fell as you may ascertain. Look within yourself. Discern where that idea began, and further how a symbol has weaseled its way within you. This can be said of a myriad of ideas. Seek It's base, and be free to do as thou wilt.
 

Setite

Setite
I feel Satan is being good to me, but is it mandatory to use the inverted pentagram in the Left Hand Path?

Wearing that symbol or putting it on my altar makes me nauseous/sick, either with the circle or without it. And it's not due to some disease; as soon as I put it upright the nausea ceases.
Wanna know why? It's in your head. Like the placebo effect. Your subconscious is ruling mere symbols. It's not so fell as you may ascertain. Look within yourself. Discern where that idea began, and further how a symbol has weaseled its way within you. This can be said of a myriad of ideas. Seek It's base, and be free to do as thou wilt.
 

crossfire

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Wanna know why? It's in your head. Like the placebo effect. Your subconscious is ruling mere symbols. It's not so fell as you may ascertain. Look within yourself. Discern where that idea began, and further how a symbol has weaseled its way within you. This can be said of a myriad of ideas. Seek It's base, and be free to do as thou wilt.
Agreed. In this case it would be the nocebo effect.
 

agorman

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Sorry to revive this thread after so much time, seems it's an unknown evil spirit that causes those bad effects, and they get worse with the inverted pentacle (seems he/she/it doesn't want me to use it). Not an easy bugger to banish. In fact, I don't see it, I just feel it's effects, so I don't exactly know who I'm dealing with. It's been bugging me for at least 3 years. And seems the "predator" gets stronger the more I attempt to banish it. Meditating on self-forgiveness and repeating "I'm an immortal god" (!) helps for a while, but it ends up returning. I think I saw it as a 3D shadow in the astral plane once. But imaginary or not, I'll have to keep fighting it.
 

VoidCat

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Sorry to revive this thread after so much time, seems it's an unknown evil spirit that causes those bad effects, and they get worse with the inverted pentacle (seems he/she/it doesn't want me to use it). Not an easy bugger to banish. In fact, I don't see it, I just feel it's effects, so I don't exactly know who I'm dealing with. It's been bugging me for at least 3 years. And seems the "predator" gets stronger the more I attempt to banish it. Meditating on self-forgiveness and repeating "I'm an immortal god" (!) helps for a while, but it ends up returning. I think I saw it as a 3D shadow in the astral plane once. But imaginary or not, I'll have to keep fighting it.
Could it be a thoughtform you created? Im not saying it is but sometimes folk create a thoughtform and that can terrorize them.
 

Shadow Wolf

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Wearing that symbol or putting it on my altar makes me nauseous/sick, either with the circle or without it. And it's not due to some disease; as soon as I put it upright the nausea ceases.
Then maybe break your own taboo? The symbol itself is nothing more than a star with a thingy pointing down. It's all you making you sick.
It's not mandatory to use it, but mastering such a self inflicted placebo would be a good goal for self empowerment.
I thought maybe I had to show the spirits or gods that I'm in a LHP by using its most famous symbol. Also it's supposed to serve as a protection against evil luminous entities.
It's not really its most famous symbol. That likely belongs to Baphomet, with or without an accompanying pentagram but especially with it.
Do you think probably a black moon would be a good LHP symbol? Or a black cube?
It's whatever. I wear an amulet with Lucifer's sigil with a Black Mass Latin passage written around it.
 

VoidCat

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I saw a post saying Satan told you to look into Sumerian mythology regarding creationism. Look up malevolent Mesopotamian spirits. See if any symptoms line up. Try looking up a banishing ritual that involves Sumerian magick.
 

VoidCat

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I saw a post saying Satan told you to look into Sumerian mythology regarding creationism. Look up malevolent Mesopotamian spirits. See if any symptoms line up. Try looking up a banishing ritual that involves Sumerian magick.
A deity you could ask for help from is Gula Bau. Or you could ask Pazuzu for advice. Both are sumerian deities that could help with this provided its not Pazuzu attacking you. Pazuzu is known to fend off malevolent beings but also known to do malevolent things. Gula Bau is associated with healing in general.
 

agorman

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Could it be a thoughtform you created? Im not saying it is but sometimes folk create a thoughtform and that can terrorize them.
Maybe. It all started with a vision I had years ago in the shower (seems I fell in a light trance) with some supposed angels of Satan. They had white and luminous skin, dressed in black, aiming at me with swords and lancets. They told me they were angry at me trying to be Satanic after I rejected Satan as an enemy for so many years. They were right in that Society in general always taught me darkness is evil, but it's not my fault. In fact, I feel I absolutely need the "yin" for balance.

Then maybe break your own taboo? The symbol itself is nothing more than a star with a thingy pointing down. It's all you making you sick.
It's not mandatory to use it, but mastering such a self inflicted placebo would be a good goal for self empowerment.

Well it's not an evil symbol; Shiva told me in a trance, that the inverted pentacle it's a symbol of someone who aims at his inner divinity instead of an external god. So if I have a taboo, it must be due to some unresolved subconscious trash. But if it's myself making myself sick, then I wonder why some banishment symbols and mudras (like the karana) temporarily work.

Undoubtably whatever happens externally always has its root inside, but it has to be resolved somehow.

I saw a post saying Satan told you to look into Sumerian mythology? Look up malevolent Mesopotamian spirits. See if any symptoms line up. Try looking up a banishing ritual that involves Sumerian magick.

Good idea. There's an information that doesn't match in my UPGs. On one hand Satan told me he's an Anunnaki (Enki), on the other he told me he was a Pleiadian that works with darkness. Unless somehow he's both.

It's not really its most famous symbol. That likely belongs to Baphomet, with or without an accompanying pentagram but especially with it.

And weirdly enough, Baphomet has an up-pointing pentacle.

Do you guys think the up-pointing pentacle could be used in a LHP context?

A deity you could ask for help from is Gula Bau. Or you could ask Pazuzu for advice. Both are sumerian deities that could help with this provided its not Pazuzu attacking you. Pazuzu is known to fend off malevolent beings but also known to do malevolent things. Gula Bau is associated with healing in general.

Thanks, maybe I could temporarily ask them for help. Because I don't really want to recourse to Sumerian deities; I don't feel I belong to that culture.
 

Shadow Wolf

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But if it's myself making myself sick, then I wonder why some banishment symbols and mudras (like the karana) temporarily work.
Same reason the inverted star makes you nauseas. It's like that movie The Ninth Gate and empowering things with your Will.
And weirdly enough, Baphomet has an up-pointing pentacle.
Usually it's down to align with the chin, ears, and horns, the Baphomet pentagram, anyways (wasn't sure what you meant at first).
Whats weird about it?
Do you guys think the up-pointing pentacle could be used in a LHP context?
The LHP is about personal empowerment, not adhering to spiritual rules and mores. Literally, the modern Western LHP is descended from an ancient tantric Hindu denomination called Vamachara and it means Left Handed Path. Historically left handedness has been shunned, and rather than observing orthodox ways, including use of the right hand for spiritual things, the Vamamarga would use their left hand, get intoxicated, have sex and other heterodox practices as a part of their spiritual growth.
Now, with that said, what will make you grow? Which of the two will empower you to stand taller tomorrow? This is something only you can answer.
 

agorman

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Whats weird about it?

Something's weird because the original Baphomet drawing has an up-right pentagram, not an inverted one:

Baphomet.jpg

 

Shadow Wolf

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Something's weird because the original Baphomet drawing has an up-right pentagram, not an inverted one:

It also has a male upper body, female breasts, wings and goat hooves and head. Also featured are two moons, Caduseus, the primary principle of alchemy, and placed just as seductively dark and mysterious is the name of the French occult author who made the image.
The pentagram actually has many meanings and uses. Here it is there because its an occult symbol as well as alchemical.
 

Shadow Wolf

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The inverted pentagram wasn't viewed as a symbol of the LHP until much later on after that image was created. The Baphomet wasn't originally a LHP symbol, either. It was adopted as one, again much later on.
That's the interesting thing about the modern Western LHP. It's sort of resembles Wicca in how they just sort of appeared in the mid 20th century. The LHP has precursors in French Occultism, but there's really nothing more than very still modern and new ideas establishing a contemporary Western LHP. And it's put us in some interesting positions A lot of what's out there is spiritual and emotional/psychological junk food, a hefty deal is just an excuse to be an *******, and even LaVey was more reactionary and shock than anything original of substance, amd even contradicting in how the Satanic Bible seems to both acknowledge as real while simultaneously deny the existence of magick/mystical forces.
And then there's the modern knowledge we have, with the LHP essentially upfront acknowledge the "traditional" modern views are built on hogwash. Satan is a Christian invention that's foreign to how we're told things work before this curveball about Satan is thrown at us in Matthew. We've learned Lucifer is a typo of sorts that actually refers to Nebuchadnezzar. And of course the emphasis on truth and facts and accepting reality makes us face the reality that while we aren't exactly making it up as we go along because it is based on legit ancient practices, but we're basically making it up as we go along. Essentially, we have the tradition of violating taboo for growth with a modern consensus that demons and fallen angels are cool amd the culturally appropriate counter to the mainstream Christian religion, but then we're back to acknowledging the glaring issue with this and the LHP being defined by what we're supposed to be opposed to.
But, then again, life itself is even messier and makes even less sense and full of all sorts of paradoxes (especially us humans) so it's whatever. Except the question of what to do when your growth stagnates because eventually when taboo becomes your norm you become stuck in a rut due to sucking the power from the taboo and leaving it deflated, leaving nothing but your normal routine and the people who make comments. And you can only go so far until you cross over unto things entirely unethical (like stealing for reasons other than survival) or illegal (animal and human abuse and murder). Amd indeed somethings shouldn't be violated, and other people should be respected with basic human decency until they've demonstrated they're not deserving or worthy of it.
I suppose ultimately if one were to fully go through to the end it would mean violating a very personal taboo shared by many of the LHP, and that is forfieting our autonomy, abandoning auto-deification and handing over the reigns of our life to a RHP god and his priests. Eventually what else is left?
 

agorman

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Well this is interesting; if I repeat "I renounce the Demiurge" (!) the supposed evil presence goes away for a while. Repeating the ho'oponopono affirmations also helps ("I'm sorry, I forgive you, I love you, thank you"). But what's helping me the most is runes; Algiz, Thurisaz and especially Kenaz. I wish I'd be clairvoyant to see who the supposed attacker is. I once fell in a trance and saw some Viking warriors that attacked me because they accused me of betraying Odin, but Odin himself wanted me to leave that path. I hope they didn't return.

Another method that works is putting Lucifer on my altar (the image of the blond angel with serpents instead of the goat god). His light gets the bugger away. But it also doesn't let me sleep. I swear it's like trying to sleep with someone aiming with a torch at my closed eyes.

Whatever happens, I don't want to leave this dark path because I feel I've been guided to it, even by Jesus (!). The main reason was, a much faster progress.
 
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