Is the moon getting nearer ?

[ecco]

Anyway my pc got zapped last night , it is now broke.

I think we all know who zapped your PC. And why.

 

[ecco]

I Have tests but I have had death threats if I speak out about stuff .

No, no, no. You have it backward. People said they almost died laughing when they read your stuff.

On the other hand, how is your PC? Still sick?

 

[ecco]

Ideas from before not mentioned here, a microwave weapon for example , but I won't give it anyone they not having it .

A black hole device , they not having that either

As you know, either of those could be used to zap a PC at long distances.

Are you sure no one else has them?

 

[ecco]

Of course one does not have to be an expert when a person claims that the hypotheses of a major branch of science have no evidence at all and are "speculation". One may legitimately claim that the evidence for dark matter is insufficient at this time to accept it blindly, but it is obviously false to claim there is no evidence for the idea.

I think a major part of this is the lay person's inability to understand the non-mathematical definition of "proof" and the scientific definition of "evidence". I won't even bother going past the first piece of evidence until the people denying science get at least a bare bones understanding of what is and what is not evidence.

How has that been working out? Convinced anyone yet? I'll give you good odds on the current batch of disbelievers.

 

[james blunt]

As you know, either of those could be used to zap a PC at long distances.

Are you sure no one else has them?

As you know, either of those could be used to zap a PC at long distances.

Are you sure no one else has them?

I think it was probably more a virus than an actual zap. As for others having such , maybe , maybe not , I wouldn't know.

 

[james blunt]

No, no, no. You have it backward. People said they almost died laughing when they read your stuff.

On the other hand, how is your PC? Still sick?

I think crying is what you meant.still on tablet it's hard to write properly though as it's only a small one.

 

[Subduction Zone]

How has that been working out? Convinced anyone yet? I'll give you good odds on the current batch of disbelievers.

Of course not. I do this more for the lurkers and I occasionally learn something by opposing science deniers. For example in one forum, not here, I was discussing AGW with another science denier. He went so far as to even deny the Greenhouse Effect. He tried to do so using the Stefan Boltzmann law. I learned quite a bit about it by Googling much more than just the Wikipedia entry on it. He approached it religiously and would not accept any defiance from it, even though finding them was no problem at all. I got nowhere with him, but I did finally understand the mechanism of the Greenhouse Effect and was pleasantly surprised when a YouTube video came out explaining it using the same argument that I had.

And I look forward to being shown that I am wrong, though that is relatively rare. When I am shown to be wrong I learn much more than by repeating what I already know.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I think crying is what you meant.still on tablet it's hard to write properly though as it's only a small one.

Tell me about it. My tablet has a feature that I call "autowrong". The autocorrect sometimes disagrees with me and "corrects" perfectly good posts and makes them nonsensical. Though it does catch spelling errors some of the time. I know the tablet does this because I will sometimes have to go back and reenter a word. If it does not ( sidenote it just now did correct "jot" to "not", good autocorrect) like my word I will have to retype it several times. On the third try it seems to finally get the idea.

 

[james blunt]

Tell me about it. My tablet has a feature that I call "autowrong". The autocorrect sometimes disagrees with me and "corrects" perfectly good posts and makes them nonsensical. Though it does catch spelling errors some of the time. I know the tablet does this because I will sometimes have to go back and reenter a word. If it does not ( sidenote it just now did correct "jot" to "not", good autocorrect) like my word I will have to retype it several times. On the third try it seems to finally get the idea.

I keep catching buttons collapsing screen lol

 

[Subduction Zone]

I keep catching buttons collapsing screen lol

Been there, done that.

My posts are definitely better when I use my desktop.

 

[james blunt]

Been there, done that.

My posts are definitely better when I use my desktop.

Mine are , my keyboard on my pc is almost broke , keys crunch etc . That's also horrible when trying type .

 

[ecco]

Mine are , my keyboard on my pc is almost broke , keys crunch etc . That's also horrible when trying type .

FWIW a keyboard with back-lighted keys is a must working in a darkened room.

Azio Large Print Tri-Color Backlit Wired Keyboard $26

I've had it for about three years. It's getting a little worn. If you've never used a backlit KB, you really should take a look at one.

 

[james blunt]

FWIW a keyboard with back-lighted keys is a must working in a darkened room.

Azio Large Print Tri-Color Backlit Wired Keyboard $26

I've had it for about three years. It's getting a little worn. If you've never used a backlit KB, you really should take a look at one.

My one is a back lit one but it is definitely worn out . I will get my pc sorted in time and eventually a new keyboard .

 

[Native]

Do you often communicate with entities that really aren't there at all?
That would explain a lot.

As for your reply here and in your #415-416-417-418 there is non whatsoever valid objective contents regarding the topic here in this thread or for that matter other topic. It´s just emotional and personal comments on this or that.

Try to find the objective arguments and explanations and hold on to this and leave the personal mud throwing out of the discussions.

GROW UP - OR JUST SHUT UP!

 

[Native]

You do realize that there is no doubt about a giant black hole in the center of the Milky Way, don't you? I can support that claim as well. It is not large enough to cause the rotation that is obverved.

The idea of a "heavy black singularity hole in the galactic centers" is ridiculous. I´s somewhat just like the eye of a hurricane with a funnel of motion. It´s just pathetic that modern cosmology and astrophysics cannot come up with causal explanations when matters flow in an electromagnetic circuit in galaxies.

No, no, no. Like I said, you did not understand that article. That article says nothing about stars forming in the center of the Galaxy and moving out. What it implies is that the matter would have been taken in by the galaxy from a larger area and that moved outward as more matter was added.

Care to be updated? Galaxies may have formed inside out -
Gaia-ESO data show Milky Way may have formed ‘inside-out’, and provide new insight into Galactic evolution

And more handwaving nonsense that you cannot support or test in any way. Your so called predictions are worthless. You complain about ad hoc, but that is all that you have. Tell me what reasonable test would refute your "predictions"?

It´s VERY hard for you to learn anything new which doesn´t figure in dogmatic consensus textbook, isn´t it? You don´t grasp that I´m talking about alternative cosmological perceptions and explanations, but you automatically react with rejections without even contemplating what you are reading.

I´really cannot take your comments - especially the personal ones - and replies as a serious and open minded discussion.

If you keep on with your unpleasant and disrespectful attitudes, I´ll just press "Ignore Subduction Zone".

 

[Native]

EDIT Jan. 9 2019
It seems - at last - that scientists are on the brink of grasping the electromagnetically circuit of formation in galaxies.

Quote from - https://phys.org/news/2018-11-galax...nzBifmXE4D7Y5oJJB0kM7s_ePCJaARnepXw41UzMgMGRA

"The supermassive black hole at the center of this giant galaxy acts like a mechanical 'pump' in a water fountain," said Grant Tremblay, an astrophysicist at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and lead author on the paper. "This is one of the first systems in which we find clear evidence for both cold molecular gas inflow toward the black hole and outflow or uplift from the jets that the black hole launches".

My comment:
Fine! But then they really should drop the very concept and speculative idea of "a heavy black hole"" Where there both are an inflow and outflow, we´re talking of a circuit of formation and a funnel of motion.

Furthermore:
"According to the researchers, this entire system operates via a self-regulating feedback loop. The infalling material provides power for the fountain as it "drains" toward the central black hole, like water entering the pump of a fountain. (Edit = A funnel of flow)

This infalling gas then causes the black hole to ignite with activity, launching high-velocity jets of super-heated material that shoot out of the galaxy. As it travels, this material pushes out clumps and streamers of gas into the galaxy's expansive halo, where it eventually rains back in on the black hole, triggering the entire process anew”.

My comment:
This is for the time being the closest and most precise scientific explanation I´ve read of, which confirms my perception of the circuital and spherical formation via the forces of electromagnetism in our Milky Way - and assumingly in all other galaxies as well.

The "scientific shocking" part is, that a genuine Comparative Mythologist can come to the very same scientific conclusions out from the most specific descriptions of the ancient Stories of Creation in many cultures from all over the world.

In the Egyptian Story of Creation, the Ogdoad, the (eternal basic elements) are set in a swirling motion which results in the central "first fiery entity" from where everything is created in the ancient known part of the Universe, our Milky Way galaxy. This first Light of Creation in the Ogdoad telling, is named (Atum)-Ra.

Note: The Egyptian god Ra is usually interpreted by scholars to represents the Sun, but as (Atum)-Ra is closely connected the the Egyptian Mother Goddes, Hathor, in 3.200 BC as the Milky Way goddess, with (Atum)-Ra as her "father" - then Ra of course doesn´t represent the Sun at all. Our Sun hasn´t logically and scientifically created the Milky Way. So (Atum)-Ra represent the First Central Light in our Milky Way and NOT the Sun.

Illustrations of the Global Mother Goddess here

Read of more Milky Way Mythology on the Mytho-Cosmological website here - Ancient Science. The Ancient and native Way of Knowledge

 

[ecco]

As for your reply here and in your #415-416-417-418 there is non whatsoever valid objective contents regarding the topic here in this thread or for that matter other topic. It´s just emotional and personal comments on this or that.

No. Actually all of my comments were in response to things you posted. They may be personal, as in they are my own personal thoughts, but they are not emotional. They are rational thought-out responses and comments.

As to facts and reasonable arguments, there are no facts and reasonable arguments that will have any effect on someone who believes people six-ten thousand years ago knew more about nature than people of today.

I don't underestimate the abilities of our long past ancestors. Likewise, I don't attribute magic, superstitious powers to them.

That raises the question, why are you here? Why are you discussing your theories and concepts with people who can do nothing to advance your cause? Why are you not presenting your ideas to people in the profession?

Do you often communicate with entities that really aren't there at all?
That would explain a lot.

Try to find the objective arguments and explanations and hold on to this and leave the personal mud throwing out of the discussions.

You mean "personal mud throwing" as in telling someone to grow up. Or, worse yet, tell them to shut up. I would never do that. I think that's just plain rude

GROW UP - OR JUST SHUT UP!

Oh!
Really?
After lecturing me about "personal mud throwing" and emotional comments?!

I understand it can be frustrating trying to defend ridiculous positions, but you really need to try to keep your emotions in check.

 

[Native]

BTW:
I know from personal experiences that the concept of "INTUITION" (NOT "EMOTIONAL INSTINCT"!) have provided me many inspirations, even of cosmic character.

Recently, I watched a documentary of the INTUITION concept and function, called, "INNSAEI" -THE POWER OF INTUITION, in the Icelandic language, where the two brilliant documentary authors are living.

In the discussion here, the question of how we are gathering knowledge, is very often on the "hot board" and for my part it´s often very difficult to be heard and taken seriously because I trust very much my intuitive skills and describe "my world view" from this approach - which isn´t "normal" in our days.

Well, I can recommend the documentary here on Netflix - Maybe we then better can understand each other here on the "ReligiousForums as well as over the hole world,

PS: If you cannot get acces to Netflix, I´ll provide a link to Google Search here.

The Ancient way of getting knowledge, was/is mostly via the silent and sensitive Genuine Intuition which provides the most emphatic and direct connection between everything.

Enjoy the documentary

 

[Native]

You mean "personal mud throwing" as in telling someone to grow up. Or, worse yet, tell them to shut up. I would never do that. I think that's just plain rude

I understand it can be frustrating trying to defend ridiculous positions, but you really need to try to keep your emotions in check.

There you/we go again!

I ask you the SHUT UP when you ridicule "my positions" and you still are throwing ridiculous mud. Can you change your attitudes at all? If not just SHUT UP!

 

[ratiocinator]

EDIT Jan. 9 2019
It seems - at last - that scientists are on the brink of grasping the electromagnetically circuit of formation in galaxies.

Quote from - https://phys.org/news/2018-11-galax...nzBifmXE4D7Y5oJJB0kM7s_ePCJaARnepXw41UzMgMGRA

This is about an unusual object and the conclusions are based on accepted theories. This isn't about new physics. The whole interpretation of the data depends on gravity. Here is the paper it's based on - it might give you some idea how much work, goes into understanding this sort of thing.

A Galaxy-scale Fountain of Cold Molecular Gas Pumped by a Black Hole (pdf)