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is the u.s. a fascist state?

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
bartdanr said:
*The top 1% earners (earning above $295,495) pay 34.27% of all income taxes, average rate 24.31% of income
*The top 5% earners (earning above $130,080) pay 54.36% of all income taxes, average rate 20.74% of income
*The top 50% earners (earning above $29,019) pay 96.54% of all income taxes, average rate 13.35% of income
*The bottom 50% earners (earning below $29.019) pay 3.46% of all income taxes, average rate 2.95% of income
Peace

These figures come out quite different in the UK (Government figures)

http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2003/rp03-074.pdf

The bottom earners pay combined direct and indiret taxes of 42% of income.
Top Earners ----------------------------------- 34%

The bottom quartile account for 7% of national tax
The top Quartile account for 43% of nation tax

This shows that low income groups pay the greatest share of their income in Tax.

Terry__________________________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Terrywoodenpic said:
These figures come out quite different in the UK (Government figures)

http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/rp2003/rp03-074.pdf

The bottom earners pay combined direct and indiret taxes of 42% of income.
Top Earners ----------------------------------- 34%

The bottom quartile account for 7% of national tax
The top Quartile account for 43% of nation tax

This shows that low income groups pay the greatest share of their income in Tax.

Terry__________________________________
Amen! Truly I say to you: Gather in my name. I am with you.
I can't dispute the figures; I can dispute the methodology of the way the statistics are presented. What you have presented, terry, is a false image.


From:- http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/leaflets/irinsert.htm

Tax allowances 2005-2006

Personal allowance£4,895Personal allowance (age 65-74)1 £7,090Personal allowance (age 75 and over)1£7,220Married couple’s allowance (where at least one
partner born before 6th April 1935 but under 75(2,3)£5,905Married couple’s allowance (age 75 and over)2,3 £5,975Minimum amount of married couple’s
allowance for those born before 6 April 1935(3) £2,280Income limit for age-related allowances £19,500Blind person’s allowance£1,610


1 The higher personal allowances for taxpayers aged 65 and over are reduced by
£1 for every £2 of income above the income limit (£19,500). However, they
cannot be reduced below the basic level of the personal allowance (£4,895)
available to those aged under 65.

2 The married couple’s allowances are only available to taxpayers where at least
one partner was born before 6 April 1935 and are reduced by £1 for every £2 of
income above the income limit (£19,500). However, they cannot be reduced
below the minimum amount of £2,280. The higher levels of personal allowance
are reduced before the higher levels of married couple’s allowance.

3 These allowances, unlike the personal allowance, are not income you can receive
without having to pay tax. Instead, they give relief at a set rate of 10% of the
allowance you are entitled to. For example, those receiving the married couple’s
allowance of £5,905 will have their tax bill reduced by up to £590.50
(10% of £5,905).

Rates of tax

Income tax

Rates of tax and bands of taxable income

Starting rate – 10%£1 - £2,090Basic rate – 22% £2,091 - £32,400Higher rate – 40% £32,401 and above
In other words, Income tax is payable, as one would imagine :D on income.



A person Earning up to £32 401 per annum, pays:0% on £4,895, 10% on the next £2090, and 22 % on the remaining(ie)£25 415. ie someome earning £32400 will end up paying £5800 total.ie 17.9 % of income.


Someone earning £64000 P.a pays 0% on £4895, 10% on next £2090, 22% 0n 25425, and 40% on £ 31591 ie 39.1% of income.

 

Quiddity

UndertheInfluenceofGiants
fluffy said:
I find that unreasonable and unlikely.
I don’t find it unreasonable at all. The voters were aware of the Nazi ideology. They were an educated, industrialized, civilized Western European nation. Nazi literature had been written for years and the people were aware of it. Books like the Mein Kampf had been out and people bought them and read them. Collectivism was in the midst of Germany and I don’t think it was all Hilter. Granted that I’m sure the people were not aware of all the details but they knew about the war and other details. The face of fascism was further developed by Hitler's mentor, Mussolini. That is why I said earlier that Germany was both fascist and socialist.



~Victor
 
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