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Is the world really any more evil?

Misty

Well-Known Member
Anyone that has a decent knowledge of history knows that the world is alot better now. Everytime the earth spins humans get smarter and more civilized.

I think that is a slight exaggeration, but I would certainly prefer to live in the 21st century than any other time in history.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
From what I hear of the typical mentality in the 1940s or even the 1950s, it is misleading to say that things are worse.

I think this is very true. In the 1940's the US Army took many polls among solders about Integration of blacks and whites in the armed services. Only 7% of white soldiers thought they should be integrated. Also 68% said that jews could not be good human beings.
 

justbehappy

Active Member
Serial killers on the rise. This is a distinct evil that is defintely increasing in our times.

In the past murder was much more justified in many cases than it is now.

Child molestation. Another distinct evil that is increasing more in our times than ever before.

I'm sure that it is nothing truly new. Like I said, the media makes us aware of these things. We have no way of knowing how often it occurred in older times.

Stealing. More people are stealing now than ever before, its a " Common thing to do." And I don't see stealing as " Being common" anywhere in human history past.

I disagree with this. I think stealing has always been around - if anything it would go down in today's world because of increased security measures.

Disrespect and ignoring of our neighbors. Oh this is a growing rampant modernday problem which I do not see in our history past. People respected their neighbors back then no matter what.

What if they were a different race than them??

The use and choice of weapondry to kill. The modernday weapons being used to kill is FAR more evil than at any time in human history. The way that weapons kill has grown more evil and sinister, their design has reflected a growing cruelness in how we look at winning a war.

This is simply technology. You don't think they would have used them back them if they had them? Of course they would!

The style of clothes that women wear. This is one of the greatest growing evils that I have seen in my life time. Certain women are dressing more and more provocative each passing year. I mean this is getting worse. Men don't have to buy sex magazines, all they need to do is go for a walk and you can see all the flesh you desire to see.

I don't see this as evil at all. I see it as people being comfortable in their own skin. Girls that don't wear a lot of clothing are in no way 'most definitely sluts.' I like my legs and arms so I want to show them off. Is that because I'm trying to hook up with someone? Not at all! Plus with this darn heat, the less the better.

Language. The way we talk I think is more evil than humans have ever communicated before. What we have done to verbal communication is akin to vocal rape. The things which come out of our mouths and the way it comes out, I
think is just a down right shame, and children as young as 5 years old are doing it. This has NEVER occured in history, in my view.

Media media media. It's everywhere for kids to see and be influenced by. I could sho you quotes made about slaves, though, and I find this form of language to be worse. I don't support careless sexual actions, but I think it's better than hate.
 

Madhuri

RF Goddess
Staff member
Premium Member
I do agree alot more is added everyday and everyday old ways are turning to dust. Can you say you know without a doubt that some of those old ways might of had some truths? They survived for a long time and through many impossible situations. We are who we are today because of everything previous to the current time. Do we know that building up the stock market and the heart of greed a better thing to do then spirituality?

Which 'old ways'?
I personally don't think the ancients were very spiritual. And they certainly weren't a few hundred years ago. There were and are spiritual people but the majority have always used religion as a utility. Most have been/are very materialistic.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
There is no question that this country is in moral decline. Considering that the rest of the world hadn't caught up to us morally and now we export immorality through movies the world is in decline also.

On the other hand the worst dictators now appear to be off the scene and communism is on the decline which makes for a more peaceful world.

In New Orleans and Haiti God may well have been attacking an evil that He hates in voodooism. The world would be less evil without it.
 

McBell

Unbound
There is no question that this country is in moral decline.
Only because the media makes sticking your head in the sand and ignoring what is happening harder to do without looking like a fool.

Considering that the rest of the world hadn't caught up to us morally and now we export immorality through movies the world is in decline also.
Oh the drama...

On the other hand the worst dictators now appear to be off the scene and communism is on the decline which makes for a more peaceful world.
Based on what, exactly?

In New Orleans and Haiti God may well have been attacking an evil that He hates in voodooism. The world would be less evil without it.
So you are saying that your god has no problems with killing innocents?
And you are worried about human morality?
Wow.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I find that people think that the world is becoming increasingly more and more evil, but I don't find this is so.

Let's take it back way way long ago to the Egyptians. They thought that if you were in the poor caste you were no more important than dust. Whatever situation you were born into, no matter what you tried to do about it, depended how respected you'd be in your life. And if you tried to change this, you were outcast! They had no mercy for anyone that had less than them. This thinking continued for the longest time, even up to 100 years ago! (Though not AS extreme)
In biblical times if you were diseased or disabled, you were banned from normal society and looked at as wicked and disgusting. No mercy from anyone born different than you apparently!
For an extremely long time in history, if you questioned authority or the main religion of wherever you lived - you were immediately put to death! The poor lived miserably and the Kings and Queens soaked themselves up in luxury and all of the money that could get their hands out - few if any truly cared about their countries.
What about slavery? I would argue that's one of the cruelest acts in human history - and how they tried to justify it for so long.
Even when new land was being acquired, people would unrelentingly wipe out any race in their path.
Have we forgotten about the Holocaust even?

I honestly think that the reason our world seems so bad is simply because the media. It simply highlights everthing - even the most unimportant details of our lives. ESPECIALLY bad things that happen - those are in the media the most. There have always been evil people and evil things in the world, but what most people consider immoral has changed over time. I don't see today's world as any worse than earlier times, though.
What do you all think?

The Bible acknowledges that evil has existed and abounded throughout man's history.
(Ecclesiastes 8:9) However, the Bible also prophesies that during the Last Days of this wicked system, "critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power." (2 Timothy 3:1-5)
Jesus gave a great prophesy concerning the sign of his presence and the conclusion of the system of things. Among other things, he noted "because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:12-14)
The moral breakdown around the world is part of the evidence that God will soon destroy the wicked who are committing all this increased evil. So yes, evil is increasing today but not for much longer.
 

Misty

Well-Known Member
The Bible acknowledges that evil has existed and abounded throughout man's history.
(Ecclesiastes 8:9) However, the Bible also prophesies that during the Last Days of this wicked system, "critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power." (2 Timothy 3:1-5)
Jesus gave a great prophesy concerning the sign of his presence and the conclusion of the system of things. Among other things, he noted "because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off. But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:12-14)
The moral breakdown around the world is part of the evidence that God will soon destroy the wicked who are committing all this increased evil. So yes, evil is increasing today but not for much longer.

Oh dear!:D:D:D:D
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
There is no question that this country is in moral decline. Considering that the rest of the world hadn't caught up to us morally and now we export immorality through movies the world is in decline also.

Sorry, but that is a dangerous oversimplification, if even that. For one thing, neither the USA nor the world as a whole are anywhere near homogeneous in their moral statures.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
Im just saying should we continue feeding the stock, or continue feeding the soul? Because our world is focused on the stock, money, money, money. I understand the principle of the stock exchange but so far it only makes big pocket books bigger and at the cost of the people doing the physical labor. Ill use an example lets say someone draws up plans for a corperation to do a one time push for manufacturing (make all they can then shut down). So this person goes to look for a investor, lets say 500K. The 500k is invested with a predetermined proffit margine from the invested to the end proffit, minus the inventors cut. lets say the projected proffit for the investor is 1.5 million so he will make 1 million off this deal, total proffit would be 2 million (after labor and expenses) so 500K for the inventor. So now lets go to where these people never see, the factory. People are hired for this job lets say at $10 an hour and there is 10 employees to pay at this rate, so they will pay $100.00 an hour for the work. Projected cost for a two month period of this would be $32,000.00 for the whole 10 person crew. The workers getting this money are requireing it for a normal life, once it stops they are at the mercy of random hiring again. Their time was spent breaking their body for the job and doing it to the best of their abilities, so they wouldnt get fired. So now the investor has 1 million to sit on, the inventor has 500K to sit on, and the workers that actualy brought it out to be are just plain screwed. Now I ask you... you think this is by mistake? Does the guy that drew up the plans have any more talent then the people that know the trade (work experience in manufacturing)?
 
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it's_sam

Freak of Nature
Lets say for a second I find this acceptable. The buck doesnt stop there. From the previousely stated scenario the proffit they recieved was from a supplier. The supplier doing a quick buy/sell then marks up that price that he paid so the proffit continues for him. Wich was 2 million for the total product. The supplier from this point will sell them to anyone willing to pay what he is asking, lets say sold the whole product for a total of 2.75 million to the consumer market (stores). Now the stores have paid a collective 2.75 million and then mark this up to 3 million total cost for the product to the consumer (for their proffit). Who wins in this situation? The consumer, the worker, or the small handfull of poeple involved in this exchange?
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
A lack of knowledge about, and/or perspective on, history, often leads people to incorrect conclusions about its current state - including the idea that people are more evil now than in the past.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
A lack of knowledge about, and/or perspective on, history, often leads people to incorrect conclusions about its current state - including the idea that people are more evil now than in the past.
You dont think it can evolve like everything else? Who is the fool? The one that says there is no evil, or the one that keeps a watchfull eye? With reality as your religion you should know that you know nothing about me accept what you have noticed to try and show a point.
 
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Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
You dont think it can evolve like everything else? Who is the fool? The one that says there is no evil, or the one that keeps a watchfull eye? With reality as your religion you should know that you know nothing about me accept what you have noticed to try and show a point.

Apart from the fact that your arrogant assumption that I was specifically addressing you, is false, I don't need to know anything about you, or anyone else, to know that the world isn't anymore evil now than it ever was - I only need to have an understanding of the history of humanity.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
Apart from the fact that your arrogant assumption that I was specifically addressing you, is false, I don't need to know anything about you, or anyone else, to know that the world isn't anymore evil now than it ever was - I only need to have an understanding of the history of humanity.
You were the one with the general assumption, you did not exclude me from your conclusion. The fact evil has changed has no bearing if its worse or better. It still exists and thats what should be noticed, not the potency of its fruit. Things have changed from the past but only the sense of accesiblity, in the past you would have to get close to someone if you wanted to try and kill them. Now it only takes a push of a button from who knows where. Look at Enron and how many lives were destroyed by the choices of that corperation. To them its just stock/money to us its our life and the over-all quality of our families life. How is this different from the extremist taxation regions in the past? It isnt better now and it isnt worse... its just simply still alive.
 

it's_sam

Freak of Nature
Untill recently if you didnt agree with an areas beliefs you could keep your mouth shut and run off into the mountains and do whatever you wanted and for free. What is not owned now by man? Where could you go if you wanted out? Were trapped here and under the steaming fist of greed and those feeding its fire. We have SO much to offer but it only goes to the rich or wealthy, and not to the people suffering from what those un-accessable things could easily fix. We could of found a balance if a balance was wanted.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There is no question that this country is in moral decline. Considering that the rest of the world hadn't caught up to us morally and now we export immorality through movies the world is in decline also.
Moral decline compared to what period?

This (your info says United States) country has had slaves, and this country has committed atrocities against some natives.
 

mickiel

Well-Known Member
I don't see this as evil at all. I see it as people being comfortable in their own skin. Girls that don't wear a lot of clothing are in no way 'most definitely sluts.' I like my legs and arms so I want to show them off. Is that because I'm trying to hook up with someone? Not at all! Plus with this darn heat, the less the better.quote

And what is the attitude behind the desire to " Show yourself off?" Yourself is your conscious mind, not your body. The desire to show yourself off is vanity, thats all it is. And what is the result " In others" , of pradeing yourself in public? You walk through a crowd of men with this desire of showing yourself off. What are the consequences of that? You look in the mirror to please yourself, and then you prepare yourself to please others. And then women wonder why men are so full of lust.


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Media media media. It's everywhere for kids to see and be influenced by. I could sho you quotes made about slaves, though, and I find this form of language to be worse. I don't support careless sexual actions, but I think it's better than hate.

Everything in this world is getting worse, including the weather. Something as simple as bad weather, which we have always had, is getting worse. As human population increases, so does diamectrically our problems, thats a sure way to calculate this. I don't see why many cannot see this. Its academic, its getting worse, there is no numerical way to dismiss it.

Peace.
 
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