Is there any punishment in Islam for breaking a wife's arm?

[Richerd92]

Wouldn't it be common sense to execute a violent sexual predator rather than pay for them to have a room and food for many years?

Well morally i am against death penalty. Because first of all
1: Its more punishment to live with a crime in jail than to be killed. Since it reflects your life decision and something you have to live with
2: It makes you a murderer if you kill someone even if that one person is a criminal

Only argument i hear is valid for death penalty is it saves tax payer money, but morally i am not for it.

 

[Richerd92]

What are you talking about? as an internet user, I find search results that are anti-Islam often far easier than results that are pro-Islam, on most platforms, search engines, social media etc. Plus I get autoreccomendations for anti-Islam stuff frequently from even unrelated videos (literally, even on videos that aren't to do with religion) and searches, even though I don't watch that stuff (out of disinterest).
Unless you know what you're searching for, chances are you'll come across hundreds of anti-Islam pages and videos per day whether you click them or not.
There isn't much pro-Islamic stuff out there at the moment (nor is there a collective effort of Muslims doing that), nor much of a collective sentiment worldwide that has any pro-Islamic angle, only minorities and Muslims themselves.

Sunnah.com is the source i use

Here is the vids if interested. Its objective more or less. I dont mind people having opinions, i just prefer its more based on objective arguments is all. Its why knowing the source helps alot. I have a playlist i make of this, currently on Sunan an Nasai.

 

[FearGod]

Well morally i am against death penalty. Because first of all
1: Its more punishment to live with a crime in jail than to be killed. Since it reflects your life decision and something you have to live with
2: It makes you a murderer if you kill someone even if that one person is a criminal

Only argument i hear is valid for death penalty is it saves tax payer money, but morally i am not for it.

Imagine a bad person entered your house while you were away, he raped your
wife and then he raped your daughter and after finishing with them he killed them
in a brutal way, do you really want him to stay a life in jail and let him eat and sleep
and even enjoy staying in jail.

 

[exchemist]

There are nominally secular countries such as Pakistan, but they tend to have polarised secular and theocratic forces at work in them struggling for power. Kind of like the US only worse.

Sure. But nobody in their right mind would describe the USA as governed by religious leaders.

 

[Richerd92]

Imagine a bad person entered your house while you were away, he raped your
wife and then he raped your daughter and after finishing with them he killed them
in a brutal way, do you really want him to stay a life in jail and let him eat and sleep
and even enjoy staying in jail.

Yes. He is responsible for it. Killing him would be a mercy, not punishment. Living with your crime is worse than being killed off

 

[SeekerOnThePath]

And by this article you're defending the rapists, great.

It reminds me of the dangers of empathy. Intellectual evaluation of things always ends up at a paradox somewhere along the way when it isn't counterbalanced.

 

[FearGod]

Yes. He is responsible for it. Killing him would be a mercy, not punishment. Living with your crime is worse than being killed off

If you came home and found the rapist trying to rape your daughter and he was
holding a knife and you have a gun and you can protect your daughter by killing
him, will you kill him and be a criminal as he is or you'll wait till he finish and call
the police to take him to jail?

 

[Richerd92]

If you came home and found the rapist trying to rape your daughter and he was
holding a knife and you have a gun and you can protect your daughter by killing
him, will you kill him and be a criminal as he is or you'll wait till he finish and call
the police to take him to jail?

Well in that case killing is fine. Its self defense

 

[FearGod]

Well in that case killing is fine. Its self defense

Do you believe he deserves it?

 

[Richerd92]

Do you believe he deserves it?

If someone is in danger you cant let it happen now can you? Its not about deserving, its about self defense.

 

[FearGod]

If someone is in danger you cant let it happen now can you? Its not about deserving, its about self defense.

Yes it's a self defense but you became a killer,
you killed someone to protect your daughter, do you
believe that you are a criminal as he is.

You said that punishing a killer by killing him makes you a criminal as well.

 

[Samantha Rinne]

You won't find anything in even the secular criminal law that sets out a punishment for breaking a wife's arm. Why, then, do you expect to find such a thing in Islam?

What are you trying to do with this exercise, poking about in the hadiths for obscure sayings?

I think you're mistaken there. Breaking your wife's arm is domestic violence, and possibly other stuff.

 

[Richerd92]

Yes it's a self defense but you became a killer,
you killed someone to protect your daughter, do you
believe that you are a criminal as he is.

You said that punishing a killer by killing him makes you a criminal as well.

Its a different scenario though than being arrested. You kind of dont have much choice there, killing is right for certain reasons. But interms of legal system i dont think its more of a punishment to murder criminals in itself, their crime is enough to carry them for the rest of their life, something they have to live with day by day