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Is there any religious argument that actually stands when scrutinized with reason?

Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
leibowde84 said:
An assumption, as we don't know this to be the case. The mere fact that we haven't been able to duplicate the process in a lab doesn't mean that we won't someday figure it out. And, even if we don't, that still doesn't make it impossible.

Again, another assumption. We've not found an occurrence of this yet, but that doesn't mean it's impossible.

An assumption based on your two previous assumptions.
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and you are assuming discovery contrary to the reality we know....
good luck waiting for THAT to happen.

maybe you should consider using the word assumption....on yourself.
 
leibowde84

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Thief said:
and you are assuming discovery contrary to the reality we know....
good luck waiting for THAT to happen.

maybe you should consider using the word assumption....on yourself.
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I am not assuming that it is possible or impossible. That's my point, we can't count either out currently. Otoh, you ARE making the assumption that it is impossible.
 
leibowde84

leibowde84

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said:
And cause and effect are both creation of G-d as He created time and space and other dimensions that we know of, and the others we don't know.
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This is merely an unsupported claim, at this point. Can you substantiate this claim at all? If not, why did you contribute it here?
 
cambridge79

cambridge79

Active Member
Thief said:
I believe cause and effect apply to reality....even at the beginning.
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what a perfect choice of words:
you assume cause and effect apply to reality.
you assume Cause and effect don't apply to god
result of your assumptions:
God isn't real.

by the way: nobody says the big bang is the beginning.
 
paarsurrey

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
paarsurrey said: ↑
Because G-d claims it .
Regards

cambridge79 said:
you assume God exists cause he tells you so? Do you even realize the absurdity of the thing?
no wonder you never understood the concept of circular reasoning
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I am as certain (or even more or most or absolute certain) that G-d exists as I am certain that I have a father or ancestors and distant ancestor fathers that existed million of years ago since inception. It must be one's assumption that God does not exist just out of one's being sceptic, else one should give one's evidence that God does not exist. Please don't enumerate any hypothetical/mythical names that one does not believe in oneself.
Regards
 
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9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
paarsurrey said:
I am as certain (or even more or most or absolute certain) that G-d exists as I am certain that I have a father or ancestors and distant ancestor fathers that existed million of years ago since inception.
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Why?

It must be one's assumption that God does not exist just out of one's being sceptic, else one should give one's evidence that God does not exist.
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The skeptic position isn't (necessarily) that God *does not* exist; it's that belief in God hasn't been justified, and that unjustified claims should not be accepted.
 
cambridge79

cambridge79

Active Member
paarsurrey said:
paarsurrey said: ↑
Because G-d claims it .
Regards


I am as certain (or even more or most or absolute certain) that G-d exists as I am certain that I have a father or ancestors and distant ancestor fathers that existed million of years ago since inception. It must be one's assumption that God does not exist just out of one's being sceptic, else one should give one's evidence that God does not exist. Please don't enumerate any hypothetical/mythical names that one does not believe in oneself.
Regards
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what evidence do you have that Zeus and Anubi don't exist? as you said the burden of proof is on you. please provide them or i'll assume you're a Zeus worshipper
 
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Oldsoul

Oldsoul

Member
outhouse said:
At least you admit to having a closed mind, sure to keep education and knowledge out.

Sad really you think you know so much, there is not room for positive change.
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And your post reveals how shallow and myopic you are..

You automatically assumed I am a "Dense" "Know it all"

Now explain to me what you think you know about my education. Or the fact that I am not open minded?

Let me revert to the segment I initially responded to..

There is nothing anyone can do or say to have me not believe there is a God. .

Ps..
You seem to be finding and responding to my recent posts ..

Is there a reason you feel obligated to debate with "an uneducated " individual. .?

Aim higher. .?
 
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