Is there anything God can not do?

[K.Venugopal]

to commit suicide, may be ....

Wherever there is a suicide, know it is Me who has committed suicide.

 

[outhouse]

God can send the rain to grow plants so you can eat so you dont die, atleast he deserves a thank you for that

see I dont believe he does any of that.

thats called the hydrological cycle, its nature. nothing more.


god doesnt cause rain or drought

 

[The Neo Nerd]

Apparently he cant change the way human beings learn.

 

[Renji]

God cannot lie:
Titus 1:2: “n hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began.”
Hebrews 6:18: “t is impossible for God to lie.”

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

God cannot lie:
Titus 1:2: “n hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began.”
Hebrews 6:18: “t is impossible for God to lie.”

Yes! I was waiting for that one, and I full-heartedly believe it.

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

I haven't seen any comments on my opening statement though...
Can God make a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?

one thought is no, for the very elements obey him. He just has to say move and they move.

another thought is yes, in the fact that God can not lie, all God has to do is say I will never move this rock. In that way, the law is heavier than any weight and any command.

 

[tumbleweed41]

Can God create a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?

No...

 

[Flat Earth Kyle]

No...

Just no... come on, if you are going to give us an answer, at least explain your reasoning behind it.

 

[Onkara]

I haven't seen any comments on my opening statement though...
Can God make a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?

one thought is no, for the very elements obey him. He just has to say move and they move.

another thought is yes, in the fact that God can not lie, all God has to do is say I will never move this rock. In that way, the law is heavier than any weight and any command.

God can pretend not to be able to lift it.

 

[atanu]

I haven't seen any comments on my opening statement though...
Can God make a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?

one thought is no, for the very elements obey him. He just has to say move and they move.

another thought is yes, in the fact that God can not lie, all God has to do is say I will never move this rock. In that way, the law is heavier than any weight and any command.

http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2430820-post24.html

God makes the rules. Why should he break them?

 

[Landerage]

If God created time and space and everything else, then at one point of time nothing existed except God. So when God wanted to create, He necessarily had to have a want or thought or desire first. How did this want or thought or desire arise in God when nothing existed but God? If you say God's thought is God, then God's creation is also God. Which means there has been no creation and what exists has always existed in one form or the other, call it God, call it creation or call it God and creation. So the question is not who created it all, but why does existence keep changing forms.

Indeed There was a moment were there was only God, and I can't say moment too because there is no time when God was alone, so God have no beginning and no end. But talking about this point is highly theorical and leads nowhere. How did he desire to create ? This question can be asked to God after death because the answer cannot be received by our bodies made for physical life, God would need to adapt a different type of body so a normal human being can receive the answer. Good luck

 

[outhouse]

Indeed There was a moment were there was only God,

what makes you believe this?

there is no time when God was alone

what???



you seem to know a awfull lot about a god that evolved over a thousand years, he changed with the times and mirrored the cultures of changing hebrews.

 

[K.Venugopal]

How did he desire to create ? This question can be asked to God after death because the answer cannot be received by our bodies made for physical life, God would need to adapt a different type of body so a normal human being can receive the answer.

God appears to have answered the question through various scriptures, messengers, revelations or Himself coming in the guise of a human form etc. Those who have missed it or do not accept His answer or do not have such a question, though, must be respected as they might be seeing it all differently.

 

[Landerage]

what makes you believe this?





what???



you seem to know a awfull lot about a god that evolved over a thousand years, he changed with the times and mirrored the cultures of changing hebrews.

I read it from one of the prophet's Hadith, God's first creation was water so before he created water there was only God. But it's not a time frame because there was no time it's just in theory...

 

[otokage007]

Can God create a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?

Good point, I asked the same thing in another thread. Actually, the Bible has such incoherences like the "omnipotent God", that it falls under its own weight.

 

[earlwooters]

God can not bring peace to the world.
God can not keep people from dying of hunger.
God can not even now speak to his own creations.
God can not right wrongs.
God can not unite the world to oppose evil.
God can not save even his own son from death.
Is should be asked, is there anything God can do?

 

[K.Venugopal]

Is should be asked, is there anything God can do?

That's called turning the debate upside down!

 

[Me Myself]

Yes as states the first law of Thermodynamics.

That matter can´t be created?

I am sure more than one law of Quantum physics disagrees with it though.

Presumably on the basis that it's never been done before.

Just because A hasn´t happened doesn´t mean A CAn´t happen.

God cannot lie:
Titus 1:2: “n hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began.”
Hebrews 6:18: “t is impossible for God to lie.”

That´s false actually, I would have to throughly search, but well he told a prophet to threaten some people with this and that and at the end he forgave those who he threatened. Of course the poor phrophet wasn´t precisely pleased, but hey, Bible God should forgive more often.

 

[Riverwolf]

God can not bring peace to the world.
God can not keep people from dying of hunger.
God can not even now speak to his own creations.
God can not right wrongs.
God can not unite the world to oppose evil.
God can not save even his own son from death.
Is should be asked, is there anything God can do?

Already addressed.

 

[Acim]

For this God must become something other than Himself. Well, He does it all the time. That's what creation is all about. He becomes creation, which is not Him. Yet, because it is He who became creation, it is Him. Thus God plays the game of duality, which is a hide-and-seek game. When we seek and find Him, the game is over. Only to be played again some other day.

This comes closest to how I understand logical response to OP.

What God creates is Creation. I understand some of you all have trouble understanding what the heck that could mean, given (especially) the notion that some in the room are sure Creation must mean the physical.

What God Creates is eternal and has perfect will. When that will is (self determined as) free, it can manifest that which appears as changing, or plausibly 'forever changing.' I think a step I might be missing here in thinking about things in linear fashion is that God's Creations are Creators of Creation. Creation is really extension of God, not independent aspect of God's being. There is no separation between God and God's Creation. A distinction, perhaps, but no (real) separation.

So, the 'rock' that God would be creating in the hypothetical question is God.

In the divine dialogues (communications) I am familiar with, the answer is (I would say surprisingly), yes - God can create a rock so big that not even God can lift it. People think this means God is not all powerful, but perhaps you are not understanding how utterly huge that rock is (or would be). Think infinite, and you start to get a very basic idea of how large of a rock we are talking about. The other assumption would be in 'lift it' where? Or as divine communications have revealed, there would be no desire to lift it. If there was, God could, without effort lift said rock.

Really isn't hard to understand if you allow own self to really think of parameters at work, rather than allowing part of the mind to think there is block in the logic because one little hurdle was perceived.