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Is there anything God can not do?

Flat Earth Kyle

Flat Earth Kyle

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Me Myself said:
That matter can´t be created?

I am sure more than one law of Quantum physics disagrees with it though.




Just because A hasn´t happened doesn´t mean A CAn´t happen.




That´s false actually, I would have to throughly search, but well he told a prophet to threaten some people with this and that and at the end he forgave those who he threatened. Of course the poor phrophet wasn´t precisely pleased, but hey, Bible God should forgive more often.
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I believe you are talking about Jonah. The Lord told Jonah to warn the people to repent or be destoyed. The people repented, which Jonah diidn't think was possible, and so they were'nt destroyed. There was no lying involved at all.
 
Me Myself

Me Myself

Back to my username
yaddoe said:
I believe you are talking about Jonah. The Lord told Jonah to warn the people to repent or be destoyed. The people repented, which Jonah diidn't think was possible, and so they were'nt destroyed. There was no lying involved at all.
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Maybe my bible is at fault, and you have a more acurate version, but just checked mine and there was no "if". It wasn´t that IF they didnt repent they wouldn´t be destroyed. It was that they WOULD BE DESTROYED.

If you have another version and be so kind, I would gladly read it should al ink be provided. :)
 
xkatz

xkatz

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God cannot seem to make me a sandwich. He told me he has better things to do. As if.
 
Flat Earth Kyle

Flat Earth Kyle

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I was actually going off memory of the story, otherwise I would of posted the verses. That is just what God has always said to cities about to be destroyed. It just makes sense.That is what repentance is all about.
 
Flat Earth Kyle

Flat Earth Kyle

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I said repent or be destoyed, and on the path they were going they were going to be destroyed, but if you change the path, you change the outcome.
 
jmvizanko

jmvizanko

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Well, even though there are (non-thinking) people that somehow think otherwise, god cannot do the logically impossible, such as say, making Pi's digits be something other than what they are.

And if he is omnibenevolent, then it looks like he can't stop the emergence of and aquisition of terrible diseases in children. Or he just doesn't feel like it, which in my books is the largest reason he isn't omnibenevolent. Which is the largest reason for me to assume god doesn't exist. Which means, god can't do anything, and the random natural luck and bad luck that comes our way is exactly that.
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
jmvizanko said:
Well, even though there are (non-thinking) people that somehow think otherwise, god cannot do the logically impossible, such as say, making Pi's digits be something other than what they are.

And if he is omnibenevolent, then it looks like he can't stop the emergence of and aquisition of terrible diseases in children. Or he just doesn't feel like it, which in my books is the largest reason he isn't omnibenevolent. Which is the largest reason for me to assume god doesn't exist. Which means, god can't do anything, and the random natural luck and bad luck that comes our way is exactly that.
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This would be the case if humans have a special place in God's eyes as most religions teach. However, to play devil's advocate on the subject, suppose that "omnibenevolence" (which I believe, BTW, is a logical impossibility) extends equally to other forms of life? Many (admittedly not all) diseases are caused by life forms, after all.
 
jmvizanko

jmvizanko

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Riverwolf said:
This would be the case if humans have a special place in God's eyes as most religions teach. However, to play devil's advocate on the subject, suppose that "omnibenevolence" (which I believe, BTW, is a logical impossibility) extends equally to other forms of life? Many (admittedly not all) diseases are caused by life forms, after all.
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Its hard to imagine a god would care as much about a virus as it would a mammal let alone a human being. The big difference is that higher life forms feel pain, viruses and bacteria do not. And omnibenevolence in my mind necessarily includes minimizing pain.

Plus there are terrible genetic diseases.
 
Riverwolf

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
jmvizanko said:
Its hard to imagine a god would care as much about a virus as it would a mammal let alone a human being.
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Why? All life is sacred.

The big difference is that higher life forms feel pain, viruses and bacteria do not. And omnibenevolence in my mind necessarily includes minimizing pain.
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But not necessarily at the cost of life. Pain or not, they're alive. Besides, pain isn't always necessarily bad.

This is actually one of the reasons why I don't believe omnibenevolence can exist, since it would have to extend to all forms of life equally. Thus, we'd expect an equal number of deaths and sicknesses in all forms of life. But we don't see that.

Plus there are terrible genetic diseases.
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Such as my asthma. ^_^
 
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Benhamine

Learning Member
Acim said:
...yes - God can create a rock so big that not even God can lift it. [...] If there was, God could, without effort lift said rock.
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Then God has failed at the task, for he created a rock that he can lift not one that he cannot.

Acim said:
Really isn't hard to understand if you allow own self to really think of parameters at work, rather than allowing part of the mind to think there is block in the logic because one little hurdle was perceived.
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Only if the parameters include illogical circumstances...then again we are talking about God here:rolleyes:

-Benhamine

Edit: And to those claiming that God can set a rule forbidding him from lifting it, but he could lift it if he really wanted to...that falls in the same category...he still hasn't created a rock that he himself cannot lift.
 
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logician

logician

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yaddoe said:
Can God create a rock so heavy that he can not lift it?
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It can be easily proven that an omniscient, omnipotent, benevolent god cannot exist. All others are not worthy of worship. What a god can do is strictly determined by what religion created this god.
 
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