Is There Anyway To Prevent WW3?

[DennisTate]

In my opinion:

Agreed it could be avoided; yet it will take global cooperation, and currently most are divided in someway.

According to my understanding of prophetic text it isn't a choice... The Messianic age comes with force, and many will simply be left out.

It is alright to point out where someone is in error, to explain how something is wrong; yet when we slander (devil) or accuse (satan) someone, we're stepping over a line of it being insulting without merit.

The cases you posted are mainly individuals, and in that instance it is possible to change our own course slightly; yet when there are global eschatologies that has a lot already fulfilled, it is like trying to turn a cargo boat around, compared to a dinghy.

Also for the war not to happen, we have to then accept the Bible was wrong or God has to edit the text, so it never says there will be a war.

In my opinion.

A Christian teacher from Uganda, who seems to have had a near death experience during a bout of malaria has
written an article that I believe, (although very politically incorrect)....... gives Christians a key to unlock a vastly better future than probability would indicate.....

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy

I could be wrong... but I suspect that the Book of Revelation has hidden positive meaning all through it that sound scary......(partly due to the mentality of the translators)......
For example... ...

Revelation 8:7

"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up."

But since all flesh is as grass...... what would happen if the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh???
Isaiah 40:6

"The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:"

Former Atheist Howard Storm was shown what the earth could become like by the year 2185 if we make better choices.......and ask for the outpouring of the fire of the Holy Spirit...... rather than fearing it......

Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

If we change the way we are, then we can change the future which they showed me. They showed me a view of the future, at the time of my experience, based upon how we in the United States were behaving at that time. It was a future in which a massive worldwide depression would occur. If we were to change our behavior, however, then the future would be different.



Asking them how it would be possible to change the course of many people, I observed that it was difficult, if not impossible, to change anything on Earth. I expressed the opinion that it was a hopeless task to try.



My friends explained, quite clearly, that all it takes to make a change was one person. One person, trying, and then because of that, another person changing for the better. They said that the only way to change the world was to begin with one person. One will become two, which will become three, and so on. That's the only way to affect a major change.

I inquired as to where the world would be going in an optimistic future one where some of the changes they desired were to take place.



The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.



The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.



And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

 

[DennisTate]

I doubt there will be a WW3, much less a "rapture" that "saves" a select few privileged souls. But if people choose to think that highly of themselves, go ahead, and welcome to Satanism.

That is a very interesting answer......
yes.... thinking too highly of ourselves....
and of our group...... is a form of Satanism......!

Been there... done that... got the T-shirt.... and I am trying to avoid that error these days.....

You are in agreement with what was shown to near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm:

Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

Because of my fear of a nuclear holocaust I asked if there was going to be a nuclear war in the world, and they said no. That astonished me, and I gave them this extensive explanation of how I had lived under the threat of nuclear war. That was one of the reasons I was who I was. I figured, when I was in this life, that it was all sort of hopeless; the world was going to blow up anyway, and nothing made much sense. In that context I felt I could do what I wanted, since nothing mattered.



They said, "No, there isn't going to be any nuclear war."



I asked if they were absolutely sure there wasn't going to be nuclear war. They reassured me again, and I asked them how they could be so sure.



Their response was: "God loves the world." They told me that at the most, one or two nuclear weapons might go off accidentally, if they weren't destroyed, but there wouldn't be a nuclear war.



I then asked them how come there had been so many wars. They said that they allowed those few to happen, out of all the wars that humanity tried to start. Out of all the wars that humans tried to create, they allowed a few, to bring people to their senses and to stop them.

Science, technology, and other benefits, they told me, had been gifts bestowed on humanity by them - through inspiration. People had literally been led to those discoveries, many of which had later been perverted by humanity to use for its own destruction.

 

[wizanda]

I suspect that the Book of Revelation has hidden positive meaning all through it that sound scary

In my opinion:

I've also pondered like you on Revelation being cryptic, maybe the Lord coming as a fire, means his word, and maybe we could just elaborate on every meaning...

Then realized the same data is elsewhere in the Tanakh, and in other religious eschatology.

If you've heard of Ockams Razor, it is to take the least amount of steps, with the least amount of conjecture... The more leaps we create, the more we're being illogical, and not sticking to what it says.

ask for the outpouring of the fire of the Holy Spirit

This is a potentiality scriptually, at the moment when all nations come against Israel; God will step in, at that point the presence could just remove all the iniquity in a day, and therefore all these destructive parts of Revelation, wouldn't be needed.

Revelation 11:18 says God is removing those who destroy the earth, so it makes little sense that God is the one wanting his creation destroyed; yet clearly due to capitalist greed (military industrial complex, oil, etc), many people seem determined to annihilate the planet anyway... Scientist are giving us less than 100 years before human extinction.

Mass Extinction Underway | Biodiversity Crisis | Global Species Loss

In my opinion.

 

[DennisTate]

In my opinion:

I've also pondered like you on Revelation being cryptic, maybe the Lord coming as a fire, means his word, and maybe we could just elaborate on every meaning...

Then realized the same data is elsewhere in the Tanakh, and in other religious eschatology.

If you've heard of Ockams Razor, it is to take the least amount of steps, with the least amount of conjecture... The more leaps we create, the more we're being illogical, and not sticking to what it says.

This is a potentiality scriptually, at the moment when all nations come against Israel; God will step in, at that point the presence could just remove all the iniquity in a day, and therefore all these destructive parts of Revelation, wouldn't be needed.

Revelation 11:18 says God is removing those who destroy the earth, so it makes little sense that God is the one wanting his creation destroyed; yet clearly due to capitalist greed (military industrial complex, oil, etc), many people seem determined to annihilate the planet anyway... Scientist are giving us less than 100 years before human extinction.

Mass Extinction Underway | Biodiversity Crisis | Global Species Loss

In my opinion.

Yes....... I was kind of surprised how hard the Being of Light of NDE fame was on us
here in North America.......

Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

The Future of the United States
Howard Storm recorded how his light being friends told him, in 1985, that the Cold War would soon end, because, "God is changing the hearts of people to love around the world."

Storm states, "Since the time in 1985 when I was told these things about the future the Cold War ended with little bloodshed due to the hearts of people being unwilling to tolerate oppressive regimes."

Storm described what the light beings told him concerning the way things will be on Earth in about 2185.

He asked the light beings the question, "Will the United States be the leader of the world in this change?"

The light beings replied, "The United States has been given the opportunity to be the teacher for the world, but much is expected of those to whom much has been given. The United States has been given more of everything than any country in the history of the world and it has failed to be generous with the gifts.

"If the United States continues to exploit the rest of the world by greedily consuming the world's resources, the United States will have God's blessing withdrawn.

"Your country will collapse economically which will result in civil chaos. Because of the greedy nature of the people, you will have people killing people for a cup of gasoline.

"The world will watch in horror as your country is obliterated by strife. The rest of the world will not intervene because they have been victims of your exploitation. They will welcome the annihilation of such selfish people.

"The United States must change immediately and become the teachers of goodness and generosity to the rest of the world.

"Today the United States is the primary merchant of war and the culture of violence that you export to the world. This will come to an end because you have the seeds of your own destruction within you. Either you will destroy yourselves or God will bring it to an end if there isn't a change."
.....

 

[Jeremiahcp]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?

Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

"According to Biblical prophecy"

According to reality, Biblical prophecy is garbage.

 

[DennisTate]

lol, did offer something compelling, that matches the the holographic universe theory, most religious text globally, and from first hand experience; yet you were lost for words...

Thus the problem isn't God or some of the original texts; it is the people who've not understood the concepts within them, and have thus diluted everything.

Yup...... but in our defence this is kind of complicated information.

The Philosophical Implications of Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 events...

 

[wizanda]

According to reality, Biblical prophecy is garbage.

In my opinion:

That is such an unaware statement; we can show where it is real, historically and is happening... It is often the interpretations that are rubbish, not the textual fulfillments.

in our defence this is kind of complicated information.

It is true, some of the things discussed in religious texts are beyond normal comprehension, and only with first hand experience, would we have a clue what some of it means...

Yet not sure if you're aware of this, that is part of the point, the Bible is systematically meant to remove all those who don't know God really.

In my opinion.

 

[DennisTate]

In my opinion:

That is such an unaware statement; we can show where it is real, historically and is happening... It is often the interpretations that are rubbish, not the textual fulfillments.

It is true, some of the things discussed in religious texts are beyond normal comprehension, and only with first hand experience, would we have a clue what some of it means...

Yet not sure if you're aware of this, that is part of the point, the Bible is systematically meant to remove all those who don't know God really.

In my opinion.

Yes........ making it up to the highest level of consciousness
has not been made into an entirely easy thing to do.......

Dr. George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience

f. His Vision of the Heavenly City

Ritchie is then taken into outer space toward a distant city made of brilliant light - similar in description to the heavenly city in the Book of Revelation (see also Revelation 21:10-27.) This is the place where people go who have become like Jesus while on Earth - a place where love is the dominant focus of life. This is heaven he realizes; but he is not allowed to enter it. Instead, Jesus shows him the future of Earth and is told to return to his physical body. At this point, Ritchie is revived from death

 

[Daisies4me]

According to Biblical prophecy, all nations are to come against Jerusalem, and then God steps in to save those who are righteous; why do we need to have a World War, and everyone removed before people will accept who the Messiah is?



Surely this isn't something most people want, as most people are not invited to the Messianic age; therefore they will be removed from reality, according to most eschatology globally (Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, American Indian, Taoism, etc).

Can't we work to fix the things, why do people need to argue rather than look for solutions; realize some people think it is all fantasy, especially some of the people within the religions themselves.... Yet too much of the prophecy has already happened to the letter.

Are true prophecies inevitable or is it possible to turn it all around, and God to change his mind; if we all recognized the error of our ways like Nineveh?

Is there anyway within prophecy for the Messiah to reverse it or does it have to be a final war, and God destroying all those who don't accept, before we can progress?

If you knew you were personally responsible because of your beliefs, would you change to avoid world wide destruction?

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Hi wiz
I hope this finds you well.
I have a few comments on the post you wrote. IMHO, it seems that some tend to think in terms of a war of the nations as being the war to end all wars.... Is that your opinion as well?
As I understand it, the nations may war, but it has nothing to do with God's Holy War that will, as Revelation 11:18b speaks of; God's war will bring to ruin those who are ruining the earth that He created for mankind to live on and enjoy.
All who are participants in things that God has warned people against, will be judged at that time, as well. Only those who have a desire to live in True Peace and Security under the rulership of God's Anointed Son, Jesus, and God's Appointed King, and accept the laws given by Jesus as the correct and only way to live in peace together and cultivate and preserve the earthly home given to 'the sons of men' by our Gracious and generous God, Jehovah.
By fulfilling the Biblical prophecies, He will no longer allow the original serpent, the one who instigated and perpetuates rebellion against God's laws, to cause harm and death to His loyal subjects who will then 'reside forever upon ' the earth He created for mankind. Psalms 37:29.
For over 6,000 years God has allowed time for Satan to attempt to prove his claim that it is he, not God who should be the ruler of mankind. Well, in so doing, God has allowed for all types of governments, and sent His prophets and teachers to the most distant parts of the earth, in over 400 languages and dialects, to make His Mighty Name known throughout the earth to people of all nations, tribes and tongues, in order for them to know Him and have a chance to become obedient loyal worshipers of the Only True God, as Jesus called His God and Father, Jehovah, at John 17:3, so that no one can say that they don't know who God is and what it is that He requires of His earthly children. Now, it is up to the individual, as to whether they choose life everlasting in peace, or stubbornly refuse to become obedient to the law of God.
The prophecy will be fulfilled. As Isaiah 55:10-11 assures us. I strongly recommend the reading of Zephaniah 2:2-3. find your place, friends. While there is yet time to do so.
Peace to you

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[wizanda]

it seems that some tend to think in terms of a war of the nations as being the war to end all wars.... Is that your opinion as well?

In my opinion:

It isn't a war to end all wars; it is more that it proves something that causes God to step in to prevent its continuation (Matthew 24:22), which then causes reality to change.

the nations may war, but it has nothing to do with God's Holy War

Agreed there is a battle between light and dark going on, with us in the middle of it; the Great Deception has already happened, and many follow the opposite to what God created, whilst following their Laws made by man.

In my opinion.

 

[Daisies4me]

Yes........ making it up to the highest level of consciousness
has not been made into an entirely easy thing to do.......

Dr. George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience

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Hi
a scripture that you may find applicable to your post--- Acts 17:27. also Psalms 134:18.
If people search for HIm, He will let himself be found by that one searching with a complete heart.

peace to you
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[Daisies4me]

In my opinion:

It isn't a war to end all wars; it is more that it proves something that causes God to step in to prevent its continuation (Matthew 24:22), which then causes reality to change.

Agreed there is a battle between light and dark going on, with us in the middle of it; the Great Deception has already happened, and many follow the opposite to what God created, whilst following their Laws made by man.

In my opinion.

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Hi Wiz
Thanks for your kind reply. And for sharing your opinion on the matter.
One thing that I might add for your thoughts on, is the promises held out in the Holy Writings from God as pertaining to 'more wars'. If you look at Micah 4:1-4, and Isaiah 2:2-4, and Revelation 21:3-4.
We have the Word of God assuring us that there will be no more wars on the earth once Jehovah has installed His King and established His earthly Kingdom rule over all who reside on the earth.
Something to look forward to, isn't it?
take good care
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[Daisies4me]

A Christian teacher from Uganda, who seems to have had a near death experience during a bout of malaria has
written an article that I believe, (although very politically incorrect)....... gives Christians a key to unlock a vastly better future than probability would indicate.....



I could be wrong... but I suspect that the Book of Revelation has hidden positive meaning all through it that sound scary......(partly due to the mentality of the translators)......
For example... ...

Revelation 8:7

"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up."

But since all flesh is as grass...... what would happen if the Holy Spirit was poured out on all flesh???
Isaiah 40:6

"The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:"

Former Atheist Howard Storm was shown what the earth could become like by the year 2185 if we make better choices.......and ask for the outpouring of the fire of the Holy Spirit...... rather than fearing it......

Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

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Hi Dennis

It is rather difficult to tell who is speaking in your post, so I am going to only respond to the part of the post which I think you wrote. You spoke of the Bible Book of Revelation. I found that by reading the first few verses of the Book, we learn some very important information concerning it. Notice that we are told the chain thru which the information came to us, and in what form.
It tells us that God gave the revelation to Jesus, who then sent his angel to John, who then presented the information to John in 'signs', or symbols. Things that stand for other things. It isn't a literal happening, but a vision given to John, that he did not understand, and John was told to 'write' it down. For many years, people have wondered over the meaning of the revelation given to John , which is to come upon the entire inhabited earth and will affect everyone alive. Many of the prophecies have been fulfilled, but more fulfillments are to come. It is indeed, a challenge for all serious Bible students.

peace be with you
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[DennisTate]

(quote)

Hi
a scripture that you may find applicable to your post--- Acts 17:27. also Psalms 134:18.
If people search for HIm, He will let himself be found by that one searching with a complete heart.

peace to you
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Yes...... when we ask to be shown where we are wrong......
so that we can serve God and others better.... this prayer is
certainly answered.