The problem is when you start making arguments like this i could just up and say "well the universe was created 5 minutes ago and you have no idea because it was created with everything as it is right now." Once you start subjecting rationality to your own biased scrutiny on what it should be or is, you're entire argument becomes irrational. Why are you trying to falsify rationality rather than prove your god exists? Is it because you can't, so you have to attempt to switch the debates direction? Theistic belief is completely irrational, that is just a scientific fact, not subjective belief based upon a false premise.
My God exists, well lets get this straight, I'm not a theist. :angel2:
Let me read you an excerpt from Faust (which I mentioned before):
And next, before aught else you learn,
You must with zeal to metaphysics turn!
There see that you profoundly comprehend,
What doth the limit of man`s brain transcend;
For that which is or is not in the head
A sounding phrase will serve you in good stead.
But before all strive this half year
From one fix`d order ne`er to swerve!
Five lectures daily you must hear;
The hour still punctually observe!
Yourself with studious zeal prepare,
And closely in your manual look,
Hereby may you be quite aware
That all he utters standeth in the book;
Yet write away without cessation,
As at the Holy Ghost`s dictation!
And a pessimistic philosophy isn't good for you? Emph.
Subjectivity not science? Ahhhh....but quantum theory now suggests that everything is subjective. It also shows that all matter exists in all states, simultaneously, unless we view it. The tree exists as a seedling, maple, log, and axe-handle, all at the same time, until we force it to do something. Why shouldn't thought exist the same way? It's firing of neurons for crying out loud, matter, subjected to all the same Schrodinger attributes....Not, really helpful, just something to think about.
Why shouldn't rationality be subjective? We all perceive things differently, and are conditioned early on to look at things from a standpoint. Are you Stoic, Spinozatic, Kantian, Socratic, Platonic, Atheistic, Theistic, Objectivist, Subjectivist, Locke(ian?), Humanitarian, Ecofriendly, Democratic, Republican, Independent, etc. As we perceive differently, we reason differently, combobulated with unprecented stimuli, reasoning IS subjective. We can weigh opines against each other, but only the individualistic persona can decide which is heftier...Moral Philosophy is full of it...Categorical Imperative, Objectivist, Religiously-Based, etc. Only the individual can rightly determine which is closer to verisimilitude. We can only quest for the most common idea, purify it, and go on....nihilism......eh....not so. Comomon rationality prevails, yet to base someone on the fact of it (to which I was replying), would be ludricious...if the Creating Entity reasons, and we are products of his infinitude, then omnisiciently, he could not base us on rationality, because we would all fall short of omniscience. Can the omnipotent remove his omipotence? Then too, we all reason falsely, compared to omnscience......
That brings up another question...if an omnibenevolent, omniscient, and omnipotent creator engendered the world, and its populace....then what a shody job...Can an omni-ridden ominvorce remove his omnis? It is like a paradox....Can the omnipotent weaken himself? If not he's not omnipotent? If yes, he's not omnipotent. Then what is the product of this creator...is it possible for the omni-ridden to produce such a by-product, a
flaw? Consider the imploding galaxies, the failed stars, the dead worlds, the dying....can this, Epimetheanic thought be the product, this imperfection, of the omniscient?
Science cannot disprove the existence of a God, anymore than God disprove science. The anatheam, ultimanum is that while we contest the two against eachother, the empirical data has no relevance to theoretical and POSSIBLE entities, and musty texts cannot undo the theories that contradict it.
I like your reasoning too, irony and all that..."The universe was just
MADE five minutes ago...." :magic:
