• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Is There Proof God Exists????

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Let's explore together whether God exists or simple evolution and random chance is the truth. Let's start by looking at our world today. Can you see God and God's work behind it all or do you feel the cold mechanical clockwork of an unfeeling system??


Today, we have a great diversity of people. There are modern,high tech, highly intelligent people. There are poor people with low intelligence, barely surviving. Of course, there are the rest of us in the middle.


With advancements in science, mankind has been able to control birth rates. The most modern countries are having one or two children per couple. The developing countries are breeding ten to twelve children per couple. How is this changing the world??


Evolution is clear. It's survival of the fittest. It is a system that guaranties our survival by allowing the most fit to survive. If the less intelligent people are having more kids, how can the world be getting smarter as a whole?? And the world is gaining in knowledge. Sure, evolution is a part of the unfolding of the universe but there is a goal beyond survival of the fittest. Do you know what that goal is?? Can you see God yet??


I believe life is the education of God's children. The world will always move forward in knowledge and education. Sure it seems slow at times but forward it will go. Beyond the cold calculating of survival of the fittest, children of God, which is all of us, carry humanity with them. One doesn't have to be the smartest or the fittest to survive today. One will, however learn and grow with life.


Since, there appears to be a goal to life, is that proof God exists??? Isn't there more than evolution going on????
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Let's explore together whether God exists or simple evolution and random chance is the truth.

First of all, one has little to do with the other. Biological Evolution neither proves, nor disproves God. Only certain myths such as Old Testament events are disproven, or shown to be false, through our knowledge of Biological Evolution and the other sciences.

Let's start by looking at our world today. Can you see God and God's work behind it all or do you feel the cold mechanical clockwork of an unfeeling system??
Today, we have a great diversity of people. There are modern,high tech, highly intelligent people. There are poor people with low intelligence, barely surviving. Of course, there are the rest of us in the middle.
With advancements in science, mankind has been able to control birth rates. The most modern countries are having one or two children per couple. The developing countries are breeding ten to twelve children per couple. How is this changing the world??
Evolution is clear. It's survival of the fittest. It is a system that guaranties our survival by allowing the most fit to survive. If the less intelligent people are having more kids, how can the world be getting smarter as a whole?? And the world is gaining in knowledge. Sure, evolution is a part of the unfolding of the universe but there is a goal beyond survival of the fittest. Do you know what that goal is?? Can you see God yet??
I believe life is the education of God's children. The world will always move forward in knowledge and education. Sure it seems slow at times but forward it will go. Beyond the cold calculating of survival of the fittest, children of God, which is all of us, carry humanity with them. One doesn't have to be the smartest or the fittest to survive today. One will, however learn and grow with life.
Since, there appears to be a goal to life, is that proof God exists??? Isn't there more than evolution going on????

This is not 'proof'. It is simply subjective evidence based on your feelings and misunderstandings of what Biological Evolution entails.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
The vast majority of people born, now and through all of humanity's history, died before they were one year old.
 

CarlinKnew

Well-Known Member
The vast majority of people born, now and through all of humanity's history, died before they were one year old.
But according to Bird123, "One doesn't have to be the smartest or the fittest to survive today. One will, however learn and grow with life", so it's OK! Those infants will learn and grow with their very short lives. "Can you see God yet??"
 

jmvizanko

Uber Tool
If the less intelligent people are having more kids, how can the world be getting smarter as a whole?? And the world is gaining in knowledge.

Less intelligent people do not necessarily beget less intelligent children. The intelligence potential for anyone must be realized through education and the right upbringing. And with an exponential growth of population and technology, it is easier and easier to learn. I have the internet in the palm of my hand now.

Since, there appears to be a goal to life, is that proof God exists??? Isn't there more than evolution going on????

Please elaborate on what universal goal you are even talking about. And why that implies a creator.
 
Last edited:

McBell

Unbound
Let's explore together whether God exists or simple evolution and random chance is the truth. Let's start by looking at our world today. Can you see God and God's work behind it all or do you feel the cold mechanical clockwork of an unfeeling system??


Today, we have a great diversity of people. There are modern,high tech, highly intelligent people. There are poor people with low intelligence, barely surviving. Of course, there are the rest of us in the middle.


With advancements in science, mankind has been able to control birth rates. The most modern countries are having one or two children per couple. The developing countries are breeding ten to twelve children per couple. How is this changing the world??


Evolution is clear. It's survival of the fittest. It is a system that guaranties our survival by allowing the most fit to survive. If the less intelligent people are having more kids, how can the world be getting smarter as a whole?? And the world is gaining in knowledge. Sure, evolution is a part of the unfolding of the universe but there is a goal beyond survival of the fittest. Do you know what that goal is?? Can you see God yet??


I believe life is the education of God's children. The world will always move forward in knowledge and education. Sure it seems slow at times but forward it will go. Beyond the cold calculating of survival of the fittest, children of God, which is all of us, carry humanity with them. One doesn't have to be the smartest or the fittest to survive today. One will, however learn and grow with life.


Since, there appears to be a goal to life, is that proof God exists??? Isn't there more than evolution going on????
If god does exist, you, like so many other theists, had better hope that he does not mind your dishonesty.
 
i know this guy you might get along with, you might have heard of him his name is mickiel.

unlike us blind atheists who hate god so much that we miss all the beautiful evidences of god, he can see right through everything and recognize god's unique plan in everything.

:D
 

RomCat

Active Member
I believe that faith substantiates itself
because it is a gift from God Himself.
Your approach is like the man trying to
lift himself up by pulling on his own shoe-
laces.
 

ChristineES

Tiggerism
Premium Member
There is no scientific proof that God exists.Most theists know that and most atheists know that. That is one thing most of us can agree on. :)
 

Zadok

Zadok
Despite various claims – few (if any) are able to live without faith in something. I would submit that it is what we have faith in and what we refuse to have faith in that defines us for what we are – perhaps more than any other single thing.

Zadok

PS.
In regards to G-d – I believe what of G-d we have faith in more than just the idea of a G-d that defines us.
 
Last edited:

Bird123

Well-Known Member
But according to Bird123, "One doesn't have to be the smartest or the fittest to survive today. One will, however learn and grow with life", so it's OK! Those infants will learn and grow with their very short lives. "Can you see God yet??"
We are spiritual beings in our true natures. At what point are we installed in our physical bodies???? Surely not before memories are possible. Does anyone remember 1 year old??
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Less intelligent people do not necessarily beget less intelligent children. The intelligence potential for anyone must be realized through education and the right upbringing. And with an exponential growth of population and technology, it is easier and easier to learn. I have the internet in the palm of my hand now.



Please elaborate on what universal goal you are even talking about. And why that implies a creator.
Is faith or believing really what is going on with the world???? Maybe only in religion. Dismiss all you like for that has never been the point to life. Have you learned in your life???? The system is working.
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
"Evolution"? I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Evolution is survival of the fittest. The mutations that best allow survival win out in the end. Since mutation is random there can be many branches.
 
Top