Is there "Something" in empty space that we can't see ?

[chinu]

To spread things/stars out --- there needs to be an empty-space. Therefore, this empty-space was created even before big bang happened.

What do you think about the creation of this empty-space ?
Was there some kind of "space-big-bang" a long time before the big bang of stars ?
or this empty-space existed by default ?

Final question is: Some atoms, or molecules are really small. So small, in fact, that it's impossible to see one with the naked eye, or even with the most powerful of microscopes.

Do you believe there can be "something" in this empty-space that we can't see with our physical eyes ?

 

[Howard Is]

To spread things/stars out --- there needs to be an empty-space. Therefore, this empty-space was created even before big bang happened.

What do you think about the creation of this empty-space ?
Was there some kind of "space-big-bang" a long time before the big bang of stars ?
or this empty-space existed by default ?

Final question is: Some atoms, or molecules are really small. So small, in fact, that it's impossible to see one with the naked eye, or even with the most powerful of microscopes.

Do you believe there can be "something" in this empty-space that we can't see with our physical eyes ?

What we see with our physical eyes is our brain.

What we perceive as space is a construct which represents relationships.

It is impossible to know the nature of the phenomena which are represented by our brain.

And yes, I know, the brain itself is represented by the brain.

What are you gonna do ?

The knowledge you seek is not obtainable.

Boo hoo !

We can only act ‘as if’ reality is as it appears to us.

 

[chinu]

We can only act ‘as if’ reality is as it appears to us.

But, there'a an empty-space in front of our eyes, therefore, am asking (act) this question as it appears.
Isn't ?

 

[Thief]

To spread things/stars out --- there needs to be an empty-space. Therefore, this empty-space was created even before big bang happened.

What do you think about the creation of this empty-space ?
Was there some kind of "space-big-bang" a long time before the big bang of stars ?
or this empty-space existed by default ?

Final question is: Some atoms, or molecules are really small. So small, in fact, that it's impossible to see one with the naked eye, or even with the most powerful of microscopes.

Do you believe there can be "something" in this empty-space that we can't see with our physical eyes ?

dark matter
dark energy

theoretical physicists seem to think so
equations lead the way

but I can't chase all of those numbers
how about you?

 

[Thief]

I often post.....God was god of the DARK

before He created light

 

[chinu]

dark matter
dark energy

theoretical physicists seem to think so
equations lead the way

but I can't chase all of those numbers
how about you?

I'll ask follow-up questions

 

[Howard Is]

But, there'a an empty-space in front of our eyes, therefore, am asking (act) this question as it appears.
Isn't ?

There is no empty space in front of your eyes.
You are looking at your brain’s representation of whatever the universe is.

 

[chinu]

There is no empty space in front of your eyes.
You are looking at your brain’s representation of whatever the universe is.

In this way.. everything that one looks into --- is own brain's representation.
What is NOT ? tell me.

 

[atanu]

There is no empty space in front of your eyes.
You are looking at your brain’s representation of whatever the universe is.

That is true. As per physicalism what you see/experience is representation of universe ‘out there’. Thus, there is no way that the reality ‘out there’ can be known as it is.

Further, if what we see is representation, how do we know that there is an objective universe ‘out there’?
...

 

[Howard Is]

In this way.. everything that one looks into --- is own brain's representation.
What is NOT ? tell me.

Nothing.
That’s my point.

Try this ...
Don’t resist it.
Let yourself be aware that what you see is your visual cortex.
Allow that meditation to spread to all your senses.

Allow it to be a pleasure, not a philosophical enquiry.

Let me know how it felt.

 

[Howard Is]

That is true. As per physicalism what you see/experience is representation of universe ‘out there’. Thus, there is no way that the reality ‘out there’ can be known as it is.

Further, if what we see is representation, how do we know that there is an objective universe ‘out there’?
...

This is why the lama laughed one day and said “Really, superficiality is reality. Embrace your superficiality”

 

[atanu]

This is why the lama laughed one day and said “Really, superficiality is reality. Embrace your superficiality”

But why did lama laugh? The understanding that makes lama laugh could also be a mere representation? And lama’s laugh is also that. There is no end to this kind of nihilism.

There must be ‘discernment’ at the root to be able to experience the object-less shunya.? YMMV.

 

[Howard Is]

But why did lama laugh? The understanding that makes lama laugh could also be a mere representation?

I guess you had to be there.

 

[atanu]

I guess you had to be there.

Please see the edit. You are too quick.

 

[Tambourine]

Do you believe there can be "something" in this empty-space that we can't see with our physical eyes ?

Probably:

Dark matter - Wikipedia

 

[chinu]

Nothing.
That’s my point.

Try this ...
Don’t resist it.
Let yourself be aware that what you see is your visual cortex.
Allow that meditation to spread to all your senses.

Allow it to be a pleasure, not a philosophical enquiry.

Let me know how it felt.

No-need to understand brain's representations -- because -- here I am already trying to represent my brain so that my brain could understand those things easily/properly.

Here, I am representing my brain. NOT allowing my brain to represent me.

Understanding, brain's representations is a different exercise. I have tried this exercise several time.

 

[chinu]

Probably:

Dark matter - Wikipedia

Say it "Dark-matter" or "Empty-space". Just two different words for the one same thing.

or, is there any difference ?

 

[Altfish]

I often post.....God was god of the DARK

before He created light

Who created God?

 

[ChristineM]

To spread things/stars out --- there needs to be an empty-space. Therefore, this empty-space was created even before big bang happened.

What do you think about the creation of this empty-space ?
Was there some kind of "space-big-bang" a long time before the big bang of stars ?
or this empty-space existed by default ?

Final question is: Some atoms, or molecules are really small. So small, in fact, that it's impossible to see one with the naked eye, or even with the most powerful of microscopes.

Do you believe there can be "something" in this empty-space that we can't see with our physical eyes ?

Space is not empty. It is full of quantum stuff, gasses, dark matter, lumps of rock and possibly dark energy

Where you get the idea space was created before the bb? Completely unknown so not worth guessing about

 

[exchemist]

To spread things/stars out --- there needs to be an empty-space. Therefore, this empty-space was created even before big bang happened.

What do you think about the creation of this empty-space ?
Was there some kind of "space-big-bang" a long time before the big bang of stars ?
or this empty-space existed by default ?

Final question is: Some atoms, or molecules are really small. So small, in fact, that it's impossible to see one with the naked eye, or even with the most powerful of microscopes.

Do you believe there can be "something" in this empty-space that we can't see with our physical eyes ?

You can have fields in empty space. If there are atoms or molecules in what you think of as "empty space" then it isn't completely empty, obviously.

It is not right to think there must have been empty space "before" the Big Bang. The implication of the model is that time and space themselves would have begun at the Big Bang.