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Quran allusions to what is in the Tao makes me believe Tao is from God. I should make a thread about it.
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Is there such a thing as a universal religion?
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Quran allusions to what is in the Tao makes me believe Tao is from God. I should make a thread about it.
Alien826
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Then I suggest LDS. It operates quite well (for its members) so far as they look after each other. It's not stuck with dogmatic beliefs, as they believe that new revelations can occur as required. Polygamy OK? Yes, until it isn't.
This is the goal of God given Faith.
"That which the Lord hath ordained as the sovereign remedy and mightiest instrument for the healing of all the world is the union of all its peoples in one universal Cause, one common faith. This can in no wise be achieved except through the power of a skilled, an all-powerful and inspired Physician." – Gleanings from the Writings of Baha’u’llah, p. 255.
The foundations of that universal cause is being built. It was rejected in the 1800's so we have been advised a lesser peace will be required, built on the union of Nations, before we can acheive a most great peace based on a universal cause, one common faith.
All the Holy Books have promissed of that age and it is great that we are part of it.
Regards Tony
I will add this thought from Abdul'baha.
"The Promised One of all the world’s peoples hath now been made manifest. For each and every people, and every religion, await a Promised One, and Baha’u’llah is that One Who is awaited by all; and therefore the Cause of Baha’u’llah will bring about the oneness of mankind, and the tabernacle of unity will be upraised on the heights of the world, and the banners of the universality of all humankind will be unfurled on the peaks of the earth". – Abdu’l-Baha, Selections from the Writings of Abdu’l-Baha, p. 101.
It will happen.
Regards Tony
PearlSeeker
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Soandso
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Meh, I'm not really impressed with the notion that it's part of the religion that "revelations can occur as required" as that's not unique to LDS and speaks to my point about religions and their only two options: change being the option focused on here
Things are OK until they aren't, then the religion changes to catch up with the times. It isn't even just polygamy, but also other things as well such as black people being black because of the mark of Cain and the curse of Ham
Black people and Mormonism - Wikipedia
That's monstrous, but it speaks to the culture of the time and place that the religion originated in. The religion then has to contend with the cultural baggage it has. That's expected and it's good for change to occur, but it then can't really be universal as it's really just reactively changing according to what's locally acceptable to do at the current place and time. We see this happen all the time as denominations and whole religions split in accordance to the changes it's congregants face. Even LDS has faced denominational splits due to this phenomenon
List of denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement - Wikipedia
Secret Chief
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If you think that why did you ask the question?
I'm making a distinction between what's classed as a universal religion (Abrahamics, usually, which is not universal in that it's attached to ancient Hebrew living) and what could actually be a universal religion by some other people's definition, but I'm asking if that would not just be a sterile philosophy using clinical terms like 'The Deity'.
Secret Chief
Degrow!
How are Abrahamics classed as universal? (Which I agree are not)
It's classed as universal as opposed to 'folk religions' that are not usually practiced outside of designated areas; nor is it classed as 'Oriental' in the way that Dharmic religions are etc. Christianity and Islam dominate the numbers so apparently that's good enough.
I don't think it's universal but everyone on this thread seems to be completely misunderstanding what I mean by that for some reason. I think it's fairly clear that Christianity is based on ancient Jewish practice and is not relevant except if imported into other cultures and learned academically, as it had to be by European natives. I don't know why most Brits, for example, need to know or care about a 3000+ year old legal system from the Levant, but Christianity wouldn't make sense without it, so it's not really universal as you have to understand a particular, rather niche at that, culture to get it.
Secret Chief
Degrow!
By whom? You mean as....? ...
- World religions - Wikipedia
though I note:
"Since the late 20th century, the paradigm has faced critique by scholars of religion like Jonathan Z. Smith, some of whom have argued for its abandonment. Critics have argued that the world religions paradigm is inappropriate because it takes the Protestant form of Christianity as the model for what constitutes "religion"; that it is tied up with discourses of modernity, including modern power relations; that it encourages an uncritical understanding of religion; and that it makes a value judgment as to what religions should be considered "major". Others have argued that it remains useful in the classroom, so long as students are made aware that it is a socially-constructed category."
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By it's adherents, by wider Western society.
Are you somehow unaware of this?
Basic Wikipedia search will tell you.
☆Dreamwind☆
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Yes and no. Any religion has and will catch on in many parts of the world, but they will always be deeply tied to their culture of origin.
Secret Chief
Degrow!
Yes I am aware, edited my post. I was asking because I was interested in your take on it. (Given you think your OP question is rhetorical).
If you believe that Taoism comes from Allah, do you have any idea on why Taoism does not call for Allah's worship?
Secret Chief
Degrow!
So do I.
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From the passages I read and the book “the Tao in Islam” this not the case.