Satan is too strong. He has evolution in the museums and schools. One would have to win a Nobel by some kind of discovery that we know, but have yet to prove. In 2019, someone proved there were solar systems besides ours. We think that there is a 4th dimension, but no one has proved that it exists. This will win a Nobel Prize. This is something I am interested in, are you?
What I hope to prove by this thread is that Satan exists and to show his rebellious nature. Basically, atheists are rebellious in nature. This is why they rebel against God and claim he does not exist. Anyway, they have been taken by Satan already. They are spiritually dead, so it's a matter of someone finding the aha this is more evidence for God. God created Lucifer, remember? And Lucifer fell and became Satan. Jesus witnessed him falling in a bolt of lightening to Earth. Thus, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light in this universe. More evidence for God?
We also know Satan's nature is to speak through animals. Thus, we get all these types of negative posts from people who disavow the existence of God and Satan. But how can that be, when the universe and Earth and everything in it exists? Thus, we get the Science and Religion and Creation vs. Evolution forums. The arguments for these fields take place in these types of forums now. Eventually, the believers hope they can return to museums and schools. That creation scientists can participate in scientific peer reviews again. The proof of the supernatural is in the life spirit or God's breath. We have the supernatural and natural right in front of you.
Would I want to be an atheist or a believer who was misled by Satan? I don't think so. I just started reading about the end of the world and return of Jesus. One of the strangest myths that we have today is how someone gets punished by reliving their death over and over. Another poster called it the Groundhog Day effect. Excepth in GHD, the protagonist had to get things right. Basically, he had to repent. Just reliving your death is bad enough, but if one had to keep reliving the end of the world would be too much for words. I don't think it's a worldwide myth as it hasn't happened. But in this one, there would be no one left to write about it.
This modern idea of Satan as this being in opposition to god is a modern creation. Satan was working for and with god in scripture.
"The first occurrence of the word "satan" in the Hebrew Bible in reference to a supernatural figure comes from
Numbers 22:22,
[16] which describes the
Angel of Yahweh confronting
Balaam on his donkey:
[6] "Balaam's departure aroused the wrath of
Elohim, and the Angel of Yahweh stood in the road as a satan against him.""
God gives him a job - In
2 Samuel 24, Yahweh sends the "Angel of Yahweh" to inflict a plague against Israel for three days,
killing 70,000 people as punishment for
David having taken a census without his approval.
[17] 1 Chronicles 21:1 repeats this story,
[17] but replaces the "Angel of Yahweh" with an entity referred to as "a satan"
Yahweh uses Satan to do dirtywork -
Samuel 16:14–23 Yahweh sends a "troubling spirit" to torment King
Saul as a mechanism to ingratiate David with the king.
[20] In
1 Kings 22:19–25, the prophet
Micaiah describes to King
Ahab a vision of Yahweh sitting on his throne surrounded by the
Host of Heaven.
[19] Yahweh asks the Host which of them will lead Ahab astray.
[19] A "spirit", whose name is not specified, but who is analogous to the satan, volunteers to be "a Lying Spirit in the mouth of all his Prophets"
Yahweh lets Satan lose on Job-
presenting themselves before Yahweh.
[21] Yahweh asks one of them, "the satan", where he has been, to which he replies that he has been roaming around the earth.
[21] Yahweh asks, "Have you considered My servant Job?"
[21] The satan replies by urging Yahweh to let him torture Job, promising that Job will abandon his faith at the first tribulation.
[22] Yahweh consents; the satan destroys Job's servants and flocks, yet Job refuses to condemn Yahweh.
[22] The first scene repeats itself, with the satan presenting himself to Yahweh alongside the other "sons of God".
[23] Yahweh points out Job's continued faithfulness, to which the satan insists that more testing is necessary;
[23] Yahweh once again gives him permission to test Job.
[23] In the end, Job remains faithful and righteous, and it is implied that the satan is shamed in his defeat.
[24]
Zechariah 3:1–7 the nation of Judah and its sins,
[26] on trial with Yahweh as the judge and the satan standing as the
prosecutor
Satan did gods bidding. that is the scriptural version. If God didn't want it done Satan did not do it.
It wasn't until later after Judaism was invaded and influenced by the Persians/Zoroastrianisms devil - Angra Mainyu who acted more like the traditional devil people think of him today. So it's just borrowed mythology from Persia.
During the
Second Temple Period, when Jews were living in the
Achaemenid Empire, Judaism was heavily influenced by
Zoroastrianism, the religion of the Achaemenids.
[27][8][28] Jewish conceptions of Satan were impacted by
Angra Mainyu,
[8][29] the Zoroastrian god of evil, darkness, and ignorance.
[8] In the
Septuagint, the Hebrew
ha-Satan in Job and
Zechariah is translated by the
Greek word
diabolos (slanderer), the same word in the
Greek New Testament from which the English word "
devil" is derived.
[30] Where
satan is used to refer to human enemies in the Hebrew Bible, such as
Hadad the Edomite and
Rezon the Syrian, the word is left untranslated but transliterated in the Greek as
satan, a
neologism in Greek.
[30]
The idea of Satan as an opponent of God and a purely evil figure seems to have taken root in Jewish
pseudepigrapha during the Second Temple Period,
[31] particularly in the
apocalypses.
[32] The
Book of Enoch, which the
Dead Sea Scrolls have revealed to have been nearly as popular as the Torah,
[33] describes a group of 200 angels known as the "
Watchers", who are assigned to supervise the earth, but instead abandon their duties and have sexual intercourse with human women.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan#cite_note-26
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