Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis?

[Hockeycowboy]

Let’s all watch the movie “2012”!

(already 9 yrs old)

 

[Subduction Zone]

I do not know about your neck of the woods but these monster trucks are really popular up here in Washington.
If one of those ever collided with our little Prelude on the road, we'd be history.

The biggest Ford that I have seen in person was a 350. I could not see what they would ever use it for.?

And I did once own a Ford 300. But that was a small commercial truck with a box on the back for deliveries. The first digit tells you the axle weight that it can haul. As a pickup truck a 150 can haul a half ton. A 250 can handle three quarters of a ton. And a 350 at least one ton. But my truck had a gross vehicle rating of five tons. I never got even close to that. And it had a six cylinder engine that might have been healthy for a car,but not for that truck. On a good day it did 70 and that was about it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Let’s all watch the movie “2012”!

(already 9 yrs old)

Trust Hollywood to get the science behind almost any movie really really wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It will change nothing. It is still the same people who do the warning (the scientists) and still the same people who do the denying (the ones not trusting scientists). Change in opinion is slow, like Max Planck said "one funeral at a time".

Sadly you are probably right.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

(CNN)Record flooding in Philadelphia and New York City. Tornadoes in New Jersey. Fires burning through California and Nevada.

Everywhere you look, extreme weather. Weather the likes of which even meteorologists and other experts say they have never seen before.
What's perhaps more remarkable is that we know why all of this is happening: Our changing climate. As the Earth warms, more extreme weather becomes more of the rule rather than its exception.
In April, the World Meteorological Organization released a report detailing a five-fold increase in the number of extreme weather events over the past five decades. The WMO, which is part of the United Nations, estimated that those extreme weather events have left more than 2 million people around the globe dead and cost $3.64 trillion in total losses.

No. No they wont wake up as you put it.



It's not bad enough yet.

Wait a little longer.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

Probably not.

Most of the people who will acknowledge there is a climate crisis already know, and most of the deniers will deny it no matter what happens. We're at that stage of the paradigm shift where we're waiting for the hold outs to die in sufficient numbers they lose their control on policy, and enough of the young people aware of the facts to grow up enough to take over.

1.5 degrees is a guaranteed outcome at this point. Hopefully the die off/growing up happens fast enough that we can take action to stop 3.

Hate to be blunt, but there it is.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

There seems to be a strong correlation between the Religious right and denial of all kinds.
That is Probably why there is far less denial in Europe than the USA.
There is far less freaky religion, and what there is has no relevance to government.

It seems that some of the fundamental religious types actually welcome Global Warming and disasters of all kinds.
They welcome them as signs of God's disapproval. rather than anything man made. or that they are responsible for.

 

[Stevicus]

Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

Some people are awake, but as others have mentioned, they don't want to change their lifestyle or their habits - or their politics, for that matter.

 

[Colt]

Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

(CNN)Record flooding in Philadelphia and New York City. Tornadoes in New Jersey. Fires burning through California and Nevada.

Everywhere you look, extreme weather. Weather the likes of which even meteorologists and other experts say they have never seen before.
What's perhaps more remarkable is that we know why all of this is happening: Our changing climate. As the Earth warms, more extreme weather becomes more of the rule rather than its exception.
In April, the World Meteorological Organization released a report detailing a five-fold increase in the number of extreme weather events over the past five decades. The WMO, which is part of the United Nations, estimated that those extreme weather events have left more than 2 million people around the globe dead and cost $3.64 trillion in total losses.

No! Its the moment we refresh the realization that hysterical fear is exploited using weather events that have been occurring since the beginning of time! Unsuspecting young people may not realize that hurricanes are a common occurrence. Tropical low pressure systems come out of Africa and make their way over to the Americas. They very in size and intensity.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

No! Its the moment we refresh the realization that hysterical fear is exploited using weather events that have been occurring since the beginning of time! Unsuspecting young people may not realize that hurricanes are a common occurrence. Tropical low pressure systems come out of Africa and make their way over to the Americas. They very in size and intensity.

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What is your interest in Climate change denial?

Of course we have always had freaky weather.
However the trend is now undeniable. the trend is both measurable and visible on the ground.
Global temperatures are rising
the ice caps are melting
the seas are rising.
the energy feeding the weather events is growing.
Disasters are ever increasingly severe

Pollution is ever increasing
carbon products infuse our atmosphere and seas.
Deforestation is exponential
Environmental Fires are endemic.
The entire surface of the earth is increasingly man made and exploited.
The destruction of Flora and fauna to extinction is relentless.
The earth and its environment is becoming increasingly inimical to life.

Man not nature is the cause.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

No! Its the moment we refresh the realization that hysterical fear is exploited using weather events that have been occurring since the beginning of time! Unsuspecting young people may not realize that hurricanes are a common occurrence. Tropical low pressure systems come out of Africa and make their way over to the Americas. They very in size and intensity.

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I hope for your sake and humanity’s sake that you are joking.
What is the link between hurricanes and global warming?

Look at the chart at mid-page, and realize that frequency is the least well established link between storms/hurricanes and Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). Intensity, along with storm surge (and thus damage from each storm) is what is increasing most definitely with AGW.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Some people have more money than sense.

Usually that frame is used for a smaller commercial truck. Either for deliveries or as a small dumptruck or other similar use. But if a person is crazy enough they will make a pickup with it.

Life is good for a whale. They buy it because..

...they can.

 

[We Never Know]

Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

(CNN)Record flooding in Philadelphia and New York City. Tornadoes in New Jersey. Fires burning through California and Nevada.

Everywhere you look, extreme weather. Weather the likes of which even meteorologists and other experts say they have never seen before.
What's perhaps more remarkable is that we know why all of this is happening: Our changing climate. As the Earth warms, more extreme weather becomes more of the rule rather than its exception.
In April, the World Meteorological Organization released a report detailing a five-fold increase in the number of extreme weather events over the past five decades. The WMO, which is part of the United Nations, estimated that those extreme weather events have left more than 2 million people around the globe dead and cost $3.64 trillion in total losses.

Whether people deny it or not, from what I've seen both could do more.
Example one person I know will talk about how bad its getting and how we should do more....while filling up his big jacked-up 4x4 that gets 12 mpg.

 

[Stevicus]

There seems to be a strong correlation between the Religious right and denial of all kinds.
That is Probably why there is far less denial in Europe than the USA.
There is far less freaky religion, and what there is has no relevance to government.

It seems that some of the fundamental religious types actually welcome Global Warming and disasters of all kinds.
They welcome them as signs of God's disapproval. rather than anything man made. or that they are responsible for.

What is your interest in Climate change denial?

Of course we have always had freaky weather.
However the trend is now undeniable. the trend is both measurable and visible on the ground.
Global temperatures are rising
the ice caps are melting
the seas are rising.
the energy feeding the weather events is growing.
Disasters are ever increasingly severe

Pollution is ever increasing
carbon products infuse our atmosphere and seas.
Deforestation is exponential
Environmental Fires are endemic.
The entire surface of the earth is increasingly man made and exploited.
The destruction of Flora and fauna to extinction is relentless.
The earth and its environment is becoming increasingly inimical to life.

Man not nature is the cause.

The religious right may be partly to blame for being in denial, but in all fairness, they weren't the ones who invented the machines and built the industries which burn fossil fuels, nor are they responsible for expanding these industries all across the planet.

If the religionists had their way, most people would still be believing that the Earth is flat and was only 6000 years old. It would be a world which would have very little in terms of science or technology, no burning of fossil fuels, and no anthropomorphic global warming. People would be ignorant and have much less comfortable and shorter lives, but the planet and environment would be better off today. I'm not saying that we should have taken that course, but I'm just pointing it out as a "what if."

The Industrial Revolution might be considered both a blessing and a curse. But I neither blame nor credit religion for that. The Industrial Revolution changed the nature of politics, economics, and how humans saw themselves and the world. It started in Europe, of course, and was exported to America early on. Throughout the 19th century, inventors were coming up with new and better machines, improving on earlier models. Many groundbreaking scientific discoveries and achievements were happening. This also led to advancements in weapons technology, which many adventurous power-seekers latched onto with reckless abandon.

Europe (and by extension, America) benefited greatly from all these new machines and advancements, particularly in the areas of transportation and communication. It was used to their advantage as they went around the world and quickly dominated (or sometimes decimated) indigenous populations who didn't have the same level of technology, machines, or weaponry. Of course, the nations of Europe were in competition with each other as well, and they also had to pacify the growing numbers of peasants, increasingly crowded into cities made much bigger by industrialism.

Sorry, I didn't really mean to digress, but my point here is to say that, while I agree that there's much denial out there, the real problem is that all of us have gotten ourselves stuck in a technology trap.

When railroads were invented and people realized they could reach their destination in days where it once took weeks or months, the technology and industry rapidly expanded. Can we blame the inventor or the people who use it just because they want to get to places faster? Same with cars, planes, ships. Since these things exist, people want them - and there's nearly 8 billion of us.

I live in copper country, and as the miners always say, if it can't be grown, it must be mined. (It's also cattle country, too, as many Americans have grown accustomed to copious amounts of beef in their diet.)

And then there's all the electronics and time-saving gadgets all nefarious linked to a central scrutinizer or whatever it might be called. People don't want to give it up; they're addicted. And most of the people who don't have these things - they still want them.

I think people might be inclined to take a "business as usual" approach, even in the face of mounting disaster. I don't attribute it to denial, although that may be a related factor. I think it's more a belief that, since technology got us into this mess, technology will find a way out of it. Maybe someone will invent something that will solve the whole problem.

 

[Nakosis]

Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

(CNN)Record flooding in Philadelphia and New York City. Tornadoes in New Jersey. Fires burning through California and Nevada.

Everywhere you look, extreme weather. Weather the likes of which even meteorologists and other experts say they have never seen before.
What's perhaps more remarkable is that we know why all of this is happening: Our changing climate. As the Earth warms, more extreme weather becomes more of the rule rather than its exception.
In April, the World Meteorological Organization released a report detailing a five-fold increase in the number of extreme weather events over the past five decades. The WMO, which is part of the United Nations, estimated that those extreme weather events have left more than 2 million people around the globe dead and cost $3.64 trillion in total losses.

Being a vegetarian, I've been ahead of the curve for years.
And I keep my RAV 4 in ECO mode.

 

[Vinayaka]

Being a vegetarian, I've been ahead of the curve for years.

It makes one wonder how many of the climate change complainers are. Sounds like a double standard to me. Really, besides voting for political parties that have a clear climate agenda and plan, the best we can do is take personal responsibility, and learn the facts.

 

[Heyo]

No! Its the moment we refresh the realization that hysterical fear is exploited using weather events that have been occurring since the beginning of time!

Thanks for this example. I don't know if you are serious or sarcastic but it is exactly the kind of response I'm expecting by the denialists.
Headline: unprecedented storm and flooding.
Answer: we always had storms and flooding.
(On second thought, you can't be serious, that is such a stereotypical answer, devoid of any connection with reality.)

 

[Subduction Zone]

Being a vegetarian, I've been ahead of the curve for years.
And I keep my RAV 4 in ECO mode.

I am not a vegetarian, but I have dumped my car. I have gone almost a year and a half without a car. I walk. A lot. If more than two miles I ride the bus. Though I am terribly temped to get a car again.

 

[tas8831]

What the heck is with all the giant trucks/SUVs? Unless you are a farmer or a contractor, you do not need a huge truck!

I lived in Michigan when the SUV craze really took off. They were HEAVILY marketed as being more safe than other vehicles (due to their size), and also that they could go 'off road."
People used to driving Corollas and Escorts were suddenly speeding down crowded streets in vehicles that were clearly too much for them to handle. And their cost made them the 'babies' of lots of owners - one time after a severe rainstorm, a shiny new SUV drove down my side of the street - in my lane - to avoid going through a large puddle...
A survey by a local news show found that people who claimed to drive their SUVs off-road counted parking lots as 'off road"...
Wait, there's more - a study of local car dealerships done back then found that sales of SUVs and large trucks went up with a drop in gas costs of as little as 10 cents. I guess people didn't realize that gas costs can fluctuate by +/- 10 cents on a near daily basis. Such is the sense of the American consumer.
Rant over...

 

[Windwalker]

You are right. That is only a Ford 550. They make a 650 and even a 750.

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Who needs that small economy model?

We tend to call these SPCVs. (Small penis compensation vehicles).