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Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
We tend to call these SPCVs. (Small penis compensation vehicles).
Paart of me looks a that and goes "I want it". It is the little boy that is still in me. But then I think where would I park it? Would it get even 10 mpg? And of course the various costs would be through the roof, initial cost, maintenance, insurance, fuel . . . I still want to lose some more weight so it is still walkies for me for a while.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
I am not a vegetarian, but I have dumped my car. I have gone almost a year and a half without a car. I walk. A lot. If more than two miles I ride the bus. Though I am terribly temped to get a car again.

Unfortunately I don't live in an area that I could survive without a car.

I didn't get a car until I was 21. Prior, I was turned down for employment because I didn't have personal transportation.

I suspect it is less an unwillingness and more an inability to change one's life style.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
voting for political parties that have a clear climate agenda
In both the US and UK the political structure (FPTP, rather than PR) make the advancement of such parties slow to non-existent. We're essentially locked into "democracies" that promote and protect unfettered capitalism - the root cause of global warming.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Paart of me looks a that and goes "I want it". It is the little boy that is still in me. But then I think where would I park it?
You would have to build the Garage Mahal to store it in. Which would mean clearcutting a portion of a forest. Which would mean more greenhouse gasses. Which would mean you killed the planet for a big truck. Hey! Maybe they should name this truck The Planet Killer?

Would it get even 10 mpg?
Going downhill with a strong tailwind, it gets 8 mpg. So, not too bad if you can get gas cheap.

My bike gets 0 mpg. If I pour gas on it, it just falls on the ground and goes nowhere. So it's not very fuel efficient either.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Necessary. Multiple of my female neighbours have cars able to pull their horse trailers. (You could argue that it isn't necessary to have horses.)
I would argue that those horses are capable of pulling their own trailers. If you have horses, then use them instead. :)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Is this *finally* the moment we wake up to the climate crisis? - CNNPolitics

(CNN)Record flooding in Philadelphia and New York City. Tornadoes in New Jersey. Fires burning through California and Nevada.

Everywhere you look, extreme weather. Weather the likes of which even meteorologists and other experts say they have never seen before.
What's perhaps more remarkable is that we know why all of this is happening: Our changing climate. As the Earth warms, more extreme weather becomes more of the rule rather than its exception.
In April, the World Meteorological Organization released a report detailing a five-fold increase in the number of extreme weather events over the past five decades. The WMO, which is part of the United Nations, estimated that those extreme weather events have left more than 2 million people around the globe dead and cost $3.64 trillion in total losses.
What climate crisis? I thought it was natural fluctuations.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
You would have to build the Garage Mahal to store it in. Which would mean clearcutting a portion of a forest. Which would mean more greenhouse gasses. Which would mean you killed the planet for a big truck. Hey! Maybe they should name this truck The Planet Killer?


Going downhill with a strong tailwind, it gets 8 mpg. So, not too bad if you can get gas cheap.

My bike gets 0 mpg. If I pour gas on it, it just falls on the ground and goes nowhere. So it's not very fuel efficient either.
Aha Problem solved. I will just win the Megamillions or Powerball and use the money to buy the car. I will also contribute enough money to plant a thousand trees or more. I wish all problems could be solved so easily.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Aha Problem solved. I will just win the Megamillions or Powerball and use the money to buy the car. I will also contribute enough money to plant a thousand trees or more. I wish all problems could be solved so easily.
There you go. Nothing that throwing more money at a problem can't fix. :)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There you go. Nothing that throwing more money at a problem can't fix. :)
A ticket is only two bucks.

Occasionally, when the jackpot gets ludicrously high I will pay my idiot tax. Though I am not that big of an idiot so I only buy one ticked. I figure that it is two bucks of cheap entertainment.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Then why was there vegetation where there wasn't supposed to be vegetation?

"Their results show that most, or all, of Greenland must have been ice-free within the last million years, perhaps even the last few hundred-thousand years."

Surprising Discovery Of Plants Beneath Mile-Deep Greenland Ice | MessageToEagle.com
Please try to use a reliable source if you want an answer. Why do you think that there should not be vegetation underneath Greenland's ice cap? I doubt if any scientists said that it was not supposed to be there.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Then why was there vegetation where there wasn't supposed to be vegetation?

"Their results show that most, or all, of Greenland must have been ice-free within the last million years, perhaps even the last few hundred-thousand years."

Surprising Discovery Of Plants Beneath Mile-Deep Greenland Ice | MessageToEagle.com

Or maybe I misunderstood your comment... I realized it could be taken two ways
Global warming isn't just a natural cycle » Yale Climate Connections

Fact check: Is global warming merely a natural cycle? | DW | 28.06.2021
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
There are always dissenting voices:

Sorry, But With Global Warming It's The Sun, Stupid

"It worked! As reported in the Aug. 25 issue of the journal Nature, Jasper Kirkby and his 62 co-authors from 17 institutes in Europe and the U.S. announced that the sun indeed has a significant influence on our planet's temperature. Their "Cosmics Leaving Outdoor Droplets" (CLOUD) experiment proved that its magnetic field does, in fact, act as a gateway for cosmic rays that play a large role in cloud formation. The report stated "Ion-induced nucleation [cosmic ray action] will manifest itself as a steady production of new particles [molecular clusters] that is difficult to isolate in atmospheric observations because of other sources of variability but is nevertheless taking place and could be quite large globally over the troposphere [the lower atmosphere]." In other words, the big influence exists, yet hasn't been factored into climate models."
 
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