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Is this humane?
- Thread starter Eddi
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Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal - Wikipedia
One example of a person who deserved to die
He freely chose to do great evil
And for that justice demands that should have been put to death
His continued existence would have been an affront to decent humanity
Sadly he got away with it all
Jimmy Savile sexual abuse scandal - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
One example of a person who deserved to die
He freely chose to do great evil
And for that justice demands that should have been put to death
His continued existence would have been an affront to decent humanity
Sadly he got away with it all
No idea who he is. But I read your link. Very sad indeed. But he had to face his own Darkness at death, and I don't wish that on anyone.
May those families heal from the traumas they endured and may the community support them through it.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I also prefer restorative justice, but not everything can be restored. In such cases, retributive justice is better than no justice at all.
I am sorry you feel that way.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I am sorry you feel this way.
He is dead now
He was a radio DJ, childrens television presenter and charity fundraiser
He used his fame and influence to abuse hundreds of children
He abused dead bodies too
He was allowed to roam freely around many hospitals where he abused many patients
The establishment knew but did nothing
He could have been stopped but he was too powerful so people were frightened, intimidated and silenced
He was evil and most certainly deserved to die
I think there is a thing about him on Netflix
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
Yes probably they do, and that is true of Hitler and other murdering monsters.
However we should not be in the business of giving people what they deserve, we should be in the business of justice, which looks at more than just what someone did, it has a wider view, it takes other important things into consideration. Human rights, mistrials, rehabilitation, power dynamics between state and individual and other matters of great significance.
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
Harm for harm? What should be paramount, is public safety, the noose or rifle, is not needed to serve justice. A cell will do just as well, and if it turns out the convicted was innocent all along, he or she can be released from prison, not so easy to release people from the grave.
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
He was a very successful predator, thanks to institutions like the BBC and the Home office.
He was
I hope lessons will be learnt and that such a thing will never be allowed to happen again
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
We shall see. Institutions like the BBC have gotten away with their enabling of his offending pattern. While that keeps happening, while there is no accountability, I worry.
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
In some exceptional cases, where there are no courts or police or prisons. Then there might be no choice, but to end the life of an individual.
If they are so serious a threat, that there is no alternative.
Erebus
Well-Known Member
Yep. It's called Jimmy Savile: A British Horror Story.
I'll warn anybody tempted to watch it that it's quite disturbing and upsetting. I don't mind admitting that I cried when one woman described what he did to her as a child.
I am yet to see it but there is a thing on iplayer in which Steve Coogan plays Savile, he does a good job with the sinister creepy vibes
The Louis Theroux thing where he hung out with Savile is interesting too
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
My mother used to work at the Royal Bucks Hospital in Aylesbury, during 1974 - 75 where Savile worked as a hospital DJ. He apparently inquired about her, but the other staff told him she was too young for him and that he should know better. Warned him off basically.
This was before I had graced this planet with my existence.
Koldo
Outstanding Member
I wasn't even talking about the death penalty though...
Koldo
Outstanding Member
And, once again, I wasn't talking about the death penalty.
Little Dragon
Well-Known Member
We Never Know
No Slack
When a dog kills someone its euthanized.
When a alligator kills someone its hunted down and euthanized.
When a bear kills someone its hunted down and euthanized.
When a cougar kills someone its hunted down and euthanized.
Etc. Etc.
The thing is they don't know its wrong or know any better but killing them is the right thing.
When a human kills someone, we humans know better and know its wrong but do it anyway.
But oh its cruel to give them the death sentence.
We all are just animals. Some know better and some don't.