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Is This Sexist?

The Sum of Awe

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How Emma Stone Handles Andrew Garfield's Everyday Sexism Will Make You Smile | moviepilot.com

I don't see how it's sexist. While I can see how it can be viewed as stereotypical, it's not at all biased or against femininity.

Another similar question arises - is it racist to believe there are differences between races yet without discriminating anyone? Let's say someone believes in equality for black and white people, not believing one to be superior to the other, yet at the same time believes that black people have certain traits that whites do not and vice versa.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
It's not sexist if you consider the difference between gender and sex. Feminine is a term used to describe the feminine gender, not the female sex.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
It's sexist to propose that sewing is a womens' thing, yes.

It's not racist to acknowledge differences between races without discrimination. It is however racist to point out that black people have traits that white people do not... especially in this day and age when whities act all black just to make a rap video.

(See how I incorporated racism there? Clever of me.)
 

Amechania

Daimona of the Helpless
It's sexist because he assumes sewing is women's work and that Spiderman is to be admired for having the humility to do the job himself instead of having his mom do it which would be his right as a man.
As far as your other question I don't think there are any differences between people of different skin color except the color of their skin.
 

Amechania

Daimona of the Helpless
Perhaps I missed it... did you add this part or was it really there?

Well he says Spiderman made the costume himself even though that was feminine and that later on says his mom made his first costume. I drew the conclusion that he thinks Spiderman could have asked his own Auntie to sew it if he had wanted to.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
Well he says Spiderman made the costume himself even though that was feminine and that later on says his mom made his first costume. I drew the conclusion that he thinks Spiderman could have asked his own Auntie to sew it if he had wanted to.

Right. It was an added, extra sexist, conclusion. :)
 

Thana

Lady
Is it sexist?
Yeah, pretty much.

You not thinking it's sexist depresses me.
That's the problem with sexism, People accept it and don't call it out, Or think it's not an issue.

Kudos to Emma Stone though, She handled it well and didn't let it pass.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
So far as I can see, it's not sexist to posit differences between the sexes. Nor is it racist to posit differences between the races. But if you're going to posit such differences, you should be very sure they're real. Most alleged differences are fantasies, in my opinion, unless they are among the relative few differences backed up by solid science (e.g. Blacks have a higher incidence of sickle cell illness than Native Americans, etc.).

Racism and sexism are essentially, I think, about treating people unfairly based on their race and sex. Unfairness is usually thought of as treating people in negative ways, such as by discriminating against them in housing, but unfairness can also extend to treating people in ways you yourself might think are positive or flattering to them. For instance, if you treat someone, only because of their race, as having remarkable talent as a jazz musician, you are treating them unfairly. You are not giving them their just do.

Sum, since you're such a strong individualist, you might try thinking of it this way: Would you prefer to make your school's muff diving team because you're a white male, or because you are an excellent muff diver? Again, would you prefer to be paid $20/hour because you're a white male, or because you are personally worth $20/hour in economic terms because you're a hard worker? In both instances, the first is actually unfair to you because it is not based on your individual talents and abilities, while the second is fair to you because it is based on you're individual talents and abilities.
 
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bobhikes

Nondetermined
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How Emma Stone Handles Andrew Garfield's Everyday Sexism Will Make You Smile | moviepilot.com

I don't see how it's sexist. While I can see how it can be viewed as stereotypical, it's not at all biased or against femininity.

Another similar question arises - is it racist to believe there are differences between races yet without discriminating anyone? Let's say someone believes in equality for black and white people, not believing one to be superior to the other, yet at the same time believes that black people have certain traits that whites do not and vice versa.

Yes its sexist and yes its racist to claim their are races period.

For example define the white race or the black race and what other races do you see in this world. My friend is African married to an Irish person what race are their two kids. I just call them friends and see them as human as me and my kids. By the way I am of European descent and my wife Latin American. I have 2 kids as well. Do my kids have a specific race.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Yes its sexist and yes its racist to claim their are races period.

For example define the white race or the black race and what other races do you see in this world. My friend is African married to an Irish person what race are their two kids. I just call them friends and see them as human as me and my kids. By the way I am of European descent and my wife Latin American. I have 2 kids as well. Do my kids have a specific race.

Indeed. I'm black and white (and who knows what else), so I'm in the same boat. When you're such a mutt like me, the concept of "race" becomes laughable. My mom calls me her international baby and says that I'm the start of a new race. :rolleyes:
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Indeed. I'm black and white (and who knows what else), so I'm in the same boat. When you're such a mutt like me, the concept of "race" becomes laughable. My mom calls me her international baby and says that I'm the start of a new race. :rolleyes:

Assuming culture continually expands the tribal boundaries, the cosmopolitan end result will be of indiscriminate race.

Until then, you're mixed race. :(
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Assuming culture continually expands the tribal boundaries, the cosmopolitan end result will be of indiscriminate race.

Until then, you're mixed race. :(

It's really just a mish-mash of ethnicities, some of which came from areas closer to the equator and that's why my skin is brown. It really is irrelevant. I used to be obsessed with race and was a self-hater. Now I've gotten over it and realized how stupid it all is.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
It's really just a mish-mash of ethnicities, some of which came from areas closer to the equator and that's why my skin is brown. It really is irrelevant. I used to be obsessed with race and was a self-hater. Now I've gotten over it and realized how stupid it all is.

It's a helpful heuristic constantly abused by inferior minds. In the end it will be just another trivia tidbit.
 
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