Is USA on the brink of civilwar if Trumps wins election?

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

 

[Kuzcotopia]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

Only if he loses.

He already has his supporters claiming that if he wins, it was a fair election. But if he loses, it's because the election was rigged.

He has admitted they he would accept the results of the election and back Clinton if he loses. . . at the end of he first debate, but in the last 16 months, he has said anything. . . I literally have no idea what he'll say or do on November 8th when he loses.

 

[Godobeyer]

If he active his crazy arrogance mode all time, he will make a war with Mexico and Iran and Saudi Arabia and Russia and NK and maybe China

and civil war may with Muslims and American latino and blacks and may women too

 

[LuisDantas]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity?

Not so much Trump himself as the popularity of the mindset that enables him.

And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

No, that would be giving him way too much credit.

Actually, the specific result of this election will not mean much for the inner conflicts of the American people either way. It would take something deeper to solver those.

 

[Revoltingest]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

No matter who wins, life will go on as usual.
(I offer a money back guarantee for this prediction.)
Trump won't begin any pogroms.
Hillary won't get my gun.
No Democrats will move to Canuckistan.
No Republican armed militias will storm the capitol.

 

[Papoon]

Not so much Trump himself as the popularity of the mindset that enables him.


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Bingo.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not so much Trump himself as the popularity of the mindset that enables him.

Which mindset?
I like the ones which favor secure borders, & oppose creeping socialism & increased foreign military adventurism.

 

[YmirGF]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

No and no.

 

[idav]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

I think he should probably lose when the country is leaning left. Yes many conservatives will be miffed but probably don't even realize how much they really lean left. Except for maybe the bible belt.
See this post.
http://www.religiousforums.com/thre...nothing-to-do-with-trump.191447/#post-4915291

 

[Politesse]

Our armed vigilantes are all on his side, pretty much... When he loses, it won't be civil war so much as an ongoing (continuing) series of domestic terrorist acts, which will all be dismissed as the actions of lone crazies.

 

[Revoltingest]

Our armed vigilantes are all on his side, pretty much... When he loses, it won't be civil war so much as an ongoing (continuing) series of domestic terrorist acts, which will all be dismissed as the actions of lone crazies.

I suspect that terrorism will continue to be a problem regardless of who wins.
But it can't be blamed solely upon loners.
No matter how impolitic it is to say so, radical Islam is responsible for much of it.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

Nope.

Civil war will totally screw with careers, interfere with cable television, take out, and Monday night football.

 

[Politesse]

I suspect that terrorism will continue to be a problem regardless of who wins.
But it can't be blamed solely upon loners.
No matter how impolitic it is to say so, radical Islam is responsible for much of it.

Yes, when Muslims commit terrorist acts, "Islam" is blamed. When radical libertarian yahoos gun people down, it is assumed to be the work of lone crazies. Only the latter of those scenarios is relevant to the question of whether this presidential election is likely to lead to violence, so I'm not sure why you brought up the former situation.

 

[Jumi]

I doubt there will be a civil war in the US even if Hillary wins. So many people were envisioning concentration camps and civil war if Obama gets elected yet nothing happened. If Trump wins, I doubt he will start wars. Either way I wouldn't vote for either if I was in the US.

 

[columbus]

Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civilwar?

I think Trump is a bigger threat to world peace than domestic problems.
That's because there is far less that he can do domestically without Congress. If he wanted to attack Iran or blow up Syria or meddle in Chinese affairs, he is more able to do it without Congress.
Tom

 

[LuisDantas]

Which mindset?
I like the ones which favor secure borders, & oppose creeping socialism & increased foreign military adventurism.

Thanks, that is very helpful commentary.

For starters, I mean the mindset that perceives Trump as enabling those goals as opposed to hindering them.

One could then ask what is meant by socialism in such a context, and why it is perceived as a bad thing.

 

[LuisDantas]

I doubt there will be a civil war in the US even if Hillary wins. So many people were envisioning concentration camps and civil war if Obama gets elected yet nothing happened.

The flip side is that the narrative of fear and mistrust is not vulnerable to actual facts. The GOP keeps set of finding "someone to beat Hillary" and does not even realize that Hillary is a fairly good expression of their own values, more so than of the Democrats.

Makes one wonder if there is even the desire to avoid an eventual painful internal clash.

If Trump wins, I doubt he will start wars. Either way I wouldn't vote for either if I was in the US.

I doubt he will want to start wars. I doubt even more that he will have any significant skills to make any decisions to deal with related matters.

When it comes to foreign policy and particularly the military aspects, electing Trump is a shot in the dark at best. You might as well roll dice when any significant decisions have to be made.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I think Trump is a bigger threat to world peace than domestic problems.
That's because there is far less that he can do domestically without Congress. If he wanted to attack Iran or blow up Syria or meddle in Chinese affairs, he is more able to do it without Congress.
Tom

You still need an act of congress for any declaration of war.

He can still "mess" with them in a limited way.

 

[columbus]

You still need an act of congress for any declaration of war.

He can still "mess" with them in a limited way.

"Mess" with who?
All he has to do is whip up the fear. It's easy.

The ground has already been plowed for an attack on Iran. Trump could get congress to approve it over a weekend.
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

Thanks, that is very helpful commentary.

For starters, I mean the mindset that perceives Trump as enabling those goals as opposed to hindering them.

One could then ask what is meant by socialism in such a context, and why it is perceived as a bad thing.

By creeping "socialism" I mean increasing government control/ownership of the economy.
I don't consider welfare type programs to meet the definition.