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Is USA on the brink of civilwar if Trumps wins election?

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
I suspect that terrorism will continue to be a problem regardless of who wins.
But it can't be blamed solely upon loners.
No matter how impolitic it is to say so, radical Islam is responsible for much of it.

Will we blame Radical Republicanism for anything that might happen after Trump loses?
 

Politesse

Amor Vincit Omnia
Will we blame Radical Republicanism for anything that might happen after Trump loses?
I wouldn't call the Trump crowd Republicans per se. Just because he's on the ticket doesn't mean he stands on traditional Republican values, to say nothing of his mob.
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
That's exactly what I think Hillary is going to say. America is something they are willing to fight for and they are well armed people. Treating them that way will increase the likely hood of a civil war or domestic terrorism.

Listen to what yor saying. . .

Look, again. . . What civil liberties are actually being violated here enough to justify a rebellion?

This is hyperbolic, blustering talk by people that feel marginalized. It doesn't mean they are marginalized. It's a myth by a lower class of uneducated voters.

I'm not worried about whiners.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
Listen to what yor saying. . .

Look, again. . . What civil liberties are actually being violated here enough to justify a rebellion?

This is hyperbolic, blustering talk by people that feel marginalized. It doesn't mean they are marginalized. It's a myth by a lower class of uneducated voters.

I'm not worried about whiners.

You haven't been listening to them or following the Trump rally's then.

The people that are the root of Trumps support feel their world is being lost. The fact that their world view is a bad one doesn't matter. Trump only represents a revolution against America, he does not share there values. They want him because the American government is corrupt and Hillary is their Satan. They want to overthrow the government with Trump. That is their goal and why no negative campaign is going to stop their support.

If they lose to what they feel is the most corrupt government official ever who thinks of them as deplorable's, what options do they have. The Republican leadership has turned against them. The democrats have turned against them. Third parties are not an option in the United States. How do they exist in this new America. Getting people to change is a slow process and you have to work at it. Who is trying to help them change.
 
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Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
You haven't been listening to them or following the Trump rally's then.

The people that are the root of Trumps support feel there world is being lost. The fact that there world view is a bad one doesn't matter. Trump only represents a revolution against America, he does not share there values. They want him because the American government is corrupt and Hillary is their Satan. They want to overthrow the government with Trump. That is their goal and why no negative campaign is going to stop their support.

If they lose to what they feel is the most corrupt government official ever who thinks of them as deplorable s, what options do they have. The Republican leadership has turned against them. The democrats have turned against them. Third parties are not an option in the United States. How do they exist in this new America. Getting people to change is a slow process and you have to work at it. Who is trying to help them change.

If the weekend warriors decide to rebel, and they are decisively put down by the national guard, their blood will be at the feet of 15 years of cynical right wing journalism that has mercilessly exploited and dumbed-down their constituency. Trump and his rhetoric is a symptom of that greater problem.

I for one, believe that those people are just going to crawl back into the woodwork. Why? Because they are cowards wrapped up in the blanket of their secure news outlets, willing to believe anything.

They won't take any risks to life and limb so try can say "no" to homosexual marriage or fly a racist flag.

Consider the Civil War is the 1860s. . . It was led by genteel landowners. A young generation of yokels just picked up and did whatever they were told.

Consider 2016. . . Who's going to lead the yokels in their teens and twenties? No one. Millennials hate Trump. There's no cause and nothing of substance to fight for.

The average Trump supporter is a scared pre-elderly or elderly who peeks out their window and yells at the TV in impotent frustration because that's what they do (I'm over generalizing here, obviously).

What I know for sure? Trump will go right back to his "comfortable life", or maybe make a reality show about his candidacy. The revolution talk, and him leading one, is a joke.

See ya November 9th, if the sky doesn't fall on us.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
You haven't been listening to them or following the Trump rally's then.

The people that are the root of Trumps support feel their world is being lost. The fact that their world view is a bad one doesn't matter. Trump only represents a revolution against America, he does not share there values. They want him because the American government is corrupt and Hillary is their Satan. They want to overthrow the government with Trump. That is their goal and why no negative campaign is going to stop their support.

If they lose to what they feel is the most corrupt government official ever who thinks of them as deplorable's, what options do they have. The Republican leadership has turned against them. The democrats have turned against them. Third parties are not an option in the United States. How do they exist in this new America. Getting people to change is a slow process and you have to work at it. Who is trying to help them change.
Their world is being lost so their sense is correct. Most people don't react well to change and we're seeing that played out on the national stage. This includes the traditional pattern of male behavior which Donald (and ISIS) exemplifies. What used to be acceptable or at least tolerated is no longer acceptable nor is it tolerated in the new environment into which we're moving.
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Which some you agree :) ?
I think that lobbies would make "war" against him... All those lobbies he wishes to distance from.
And as for the Hillary side I think actually the same just more a spy like NSA type.
I don't think either really want to war they want distance, at least until one found a boundary and if harassment continues then walling up or putting some forms of immigration, money laundering on hold. (which I would hope they would think about)
 
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meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
Which some you agree :) ?
"and civil war may with Muslims and American latino and blacks and may women too."
So your saying muslims will fight American latinos the blacks will fight them, and the women shop on amazon?
And I'm also not sure about this ....
Does mexico even like iran? (betrayed a citizen for another?) Does Russia even like Saudi Arabia (betrayed a citizen for another?) Does NK even like china (betrayed a citizen for another?)
I think I get your point it's kinda funny.
But honestly borders have existed always there in part that belongs to each citizen inside. Also makes leaders shake hands but still feel they are who they are even some dislike really between mostly all nations unless they have absolutely no concern or feelings of their own citizens, that they have a sort of place.
and you may have beef heads that try to think "outside the box" but that's not knew that's old age stuff.
 
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Parchment

Active Member
Do you think Trump is a threat to national security and national unity? And will his nomination lead to civil war?

No, but some idiots that can't stand a democratic process unless it turns out the way they want it to and the ones that will use any excuse to loot and burn their own cities might be. For the more rational types on either side I'd say they will just support the people they would like to see in next time around and wait.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
What if he looses?
Will his followers accept it, or will they start a revolution?
I'm not voting for because I expect him to win.
I just go thru the motions of voting without any expectation of success.
No plans to take up arms against anyone.
Besides, I'm already revolting.
 
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