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Is YE Creationist Kent Hovind right?

It Aint Necessarily So

It Aint Necessarily So

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questfortruth said:
DISCUSSION:
Moshe: "There is no connection between mind and morality."
True Christian: "I proved the Riemann hypothesis and the abs with the help of God."
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This looks like the usual discussion I frequently find myself in here in RF. The reply is unrelated to what preceded it. I can only imagine what the response will be to this comment.

questfortruth said:
If scientists have not proven the existence of people, then how can they find the angels?
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Science has proven the existence of people. I guess that frees them up to begin looking for angels after all. You have to know how to do it, however (see next comment)

questfortruth said:
If a person is an animal, then there can be no angels.
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I think you need to weigh the angels to see if they weight the same as a duck, in which case they're made of wood, which also floats.

"This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders can be employed to prevent earthquakes."

questfortruth said:
To say that people are meaningless beasts means Nihilism.
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Who says that but creationist apologists misunderstanding what is actually being claimed? Neither humans nor other animals are meaningless. There's even an entire worldview popular with atheists that extols humanity's potential, and values the rest of life and its habitats as well.

That's a religious prejudice, that if there are no souls and that therefore man has none because he evolved from soulless creatures, he becomes as meaningless as them. There's the nihilism. It's in you, because as far as we know, that's exactly what happened, and you have painted yourself into a corner where that is unacceptable to you, where man has no value if he doesn't have a soul.

Why are creationists so often offended to be classed as animals, primates, or apes? Is that embarrassing? More embarrassing than having once actually been an infant? Your whole life is crying, sleeping, eating, and crapping your diaper. An adult gorilla has more ability and dignity than that.

questfortruth said:
If best CV in the world has zero value, then surely, USA and Mother Theresa have zero value.
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CVs have value, but not here on RF. Your only credentials here are your words. Do you make bad arguments and display a lack of understanding of the science you're criticizing? If so, those are your credentials, not alleged degrees and certificates. It wouldn't matter if those claims of personal achievement were true or not if it's not reflected in your writing. You're an especially extreme case of the claims not matching the posting.
 
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questfortruth said:
How easy is it to be the smartest on the planet, where science has proven that apes gave birth to the human race?

It is very easy to be a genius when science has proven that humans are monkeys. Sorry, "primates". Proven that we are primates. It is easy to surpass the mind of all the scientists of the Earth because they proved that people are not people, but animals.

If a person is an animal, then there can be no angels. Here is a childish, unspoiled view of the world: plants, animals, people, angels, God. If people are enrolled in animals, then what happens? There will be no angels, no God.

If scientists have not proven the existence of people, then how can they find the angels?
My Worldview in full
To say that people are meaningless beasts means Nihilism. Cows and bears do not build temples, theaters, schools.

DISCUSSION:

Moshe: "There is no connection between mind and morality."

True Christian: "I proved the Riemann hypothesis and the abs with the help of God."



There are levels of power. If human level is missing, then the scientist can not find the level higher than humans.


There are many mistakes human do. Please look article link "My Worldview in full" in the thread.


I have completed secondary school with Gold Medal, University with Cum Laude, I was lector and researcher at University, I am author in Physical Review E.




If best CV in the world has zero value, then surely, USA and Mother Theresa have zero value.


If a brilliant scientist and an ordinary human were in life danger, and only one can be saved, the saved one will be scientist. Because we have the priorities and different values.


Heavenly Kingdom.


It is because the humankind is in third world war against terrorism. The terrorism is driven by evil spirits. At war hospitals the doctors must have priorities. There will be no war in Afterlife. The war must be won at any necessary cost.


The third world war must be won, because it is final war.


You could use your entire organism.


Tell it to your COVID pass or citizen pass. Tell it to USA independency declaration too.


1. Common ancestor A gave line of humans and line of apes.
2. Hence, A gave line of apes.
3. Hence, A is ill, undeveloped ape.
4. Hence human "came" from apes.


Yes, science should broaden the logic driven search for truth on religions.



Science does study spirituality, but with agenda to prove atheism.


Nobody is 100% bad. Kent Hovind is good in his lectures. That is why he is Christian Martyr.



It is your information how science is studying spirituality. But this study is with agenda to demonstrate "absence" of spiritual realm - agenda to prove the core "assumption" of Atheism.




Be blessed, my friend. Christians doubt, that I am Christian. Scientists doubt, that I am one of them.
Is it my personal curse or bad luck with this world?


I have completed school as one of the best biologist of the class. And as believer I understand, why Theory of Evolution (known as Theory of Darwin) can not be removed from classes. The theory is very useful.




Bible is fact. But any fact needs interpretation. Interpretation needs interpreter. Religions are Bible interpreters. Hence, correct interpretation has correct religion and vice versa.


Police does not murder. But police executes.

God does not magic tricks. God is not magician.

God makes miracles.
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While I don't agree with everything he says ... he is more right than atheists ...
 
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