Isis delighted with Trump's ban

[Terrywoodenpic]

I recall many claims of Iranian involvement in terrorism under the Obama administration.
But as I said, I can't explain the inclusions & exclusions.
I have no info on the new admin's reasoning.

No reasoning involved Just Gut reaction against those that he had no business connections to.

 

[Altfish]

I'm wondering why Afghanistan and Pakistan weren't in the list.

And Saudi Arabia...could it be Trump has financial interests there.

 

[Kemosloby]

Grief, you're as bad as Trump and his cronies. Read the exchange between us. It was you who commented about Isis and the media!!

I mean't our media. Besides, nobody likes ISIS, so if ISIS says Trump is bad the people over there will love Trump. And since we all know American media is totally corrupt and biased, when they repeat Trump hate propaganda we know we can trust Trump all the more, or "The Donald" if you prefer.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Lets see now, the media has said.

Let's vet each claim...

Putin loves Trump,

This is true. From Interfax (Russia's news source) И после конференции Путин сказал, что Дональд Трамп - очень яркий и талантливый человек и абсолютный лидер президентской гонки. Translation: After the conference Putin said: Donald Trump is a very smart and talented man and is the absolute leader in the Presidential race. That's a quote... from the original Russian.

the KKK loves Trump,

So many quotes I could use. How about I just provide a GIF of the KKK's Newspaper: The Guardian

ISIS loves Trump.

They do and they've joined the other bigots who supported Komrade Trumpsky. From a son of one of their leaders:

"To hear a presidential candidate say we need to kill innocent people — that is pure propaganda for groups like ISIS. They love men like Donald Trump. He certainly isn't working for them, but he is making their jobs much much easier. They point to these sorts of comments and frankly the policies that come out of these sorts of comments."

But what they never say is America loves Trump,

Most of us don't: Only 42% approval rating as of this weekend per http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/gallup-trump-approval-rating-falls-week-one

even though the election would prove they do, moreso than Hillary.

Dude, Clinton won 48.2% percent of the vote compared to Komrade Trumpsky's 46.1%. That's almost 3,000,000 votes!

So, the media's been spot on here. Good job in not debunking the media.

I mean't our media.

Yeah, we got that and the results are the same. We can rely on our media for the truth. We can rely on Komrade Trumpsky for xenophobia, racism and other bigotries. You didn't have to be a bigot to have voted for Komrade Trumpsky: but it certainly helped.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Is it possible that they happen to be the most likely to be at risk for having terrorists coming here?

Yes but I suspect that's the narrative designed to distract from the real logic behind Trump's decision.

There is indeed a problem with a violent radical segment of Islam, & this would mean that
some majority Muslim countries would pose a greater risk than countries like Tibet, Norway,
Peru, Switzerland, Lesotho, or Canuckistan. Note also the admin's claim that Saudi Arabia,
Indonesia, & many other Muslim countries are not included in the ban.

I don't disagree but if this were truly about stopping radical Muslims from coming to the States as opposed to playing to a crowd then why has he not suspended all travel to America by Saudi Arabia - a country whom the American intelligence community knows had a hand in the 9/11 attacks; Afghanistan which is seeing an increase in Taliban activity; or Pakistan which is the Muslim version of Israel (not that you'll ever hear them complaining about it)?

Btw, if you want to know how the risk levels are determined, I haven't a clue.

None of us do. All we can do is infer Trump's motives from what he has done and has not done.

 

[esmith]

Anyone ever hear of reverse physiology?
One must look at all possibilities before making a conclusion using only one assumption.

 

[Kemosloby]

Let's vet each claim...
This is true. From Interfax (Russia's news source) И после конференции Путин сказал, что Дональд Трамп - очень яркий и талантливый человек и абсолютный лидер президентской гонки. Translation: After the conference Putin said: Donald Trump is a very smart and talented man and is the absolute leader in the Presidential race. That's a quote... from the original Russian.
So many quotes I could use. How about I just provide a GIF of the KKK's Newspaper: The Guardian

They do and they've joined the other bigots who supported Komrade Trumpsky. From a son of one of their leaders:

Most of us don't: Only 42% approval rating as of this weekend per Gallup: Trump Net Approval Rating Drops 8 Points In First Week In Office
Dude, Clinton won 48.2% percent of the vote compared to Komrade Trumpsky's 46.1%. That's almost 3,000,000 votes!

So, the media's been spot on here. Good job in not debunking the media.




Yeah, we got that and the results are the same. We can rely on our media for the truth. We can rely on Komrade Trumpsky for xenophobia, racism and other bigotries. You didn't have to be a bigot to have voted for Komrade Trumpsky: but it certainly helped.

Works the same as KKK support, everybody hates the KKK so when the Dems need a little boost the KKK comes out in support of their enemies. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out. Masked people the same as ISIS, Al Queda etc. Take off the masks and you'd probably find Hillary or the Pope.

 

[idav]

Is it possible that they happen to be the most likely to be at risk for having terrorists coming here?
There is indeed a problem with a violent radical segment of Islam, & this would mean that
some majority Muslim countries would pose a greater risk than countries like Tibet, Norway,
Peru, Switzerland, Lesotho, or Canuckistan. Note also the admin's claim that Saudi Arabia,
Indonesia, & many other Muslim countries are not included in the ban.

Btw, if you want to know how the risk levels are determined, I haven't a clue.

Well the anti Muslim terrorism is already begun, makes them no better than any other terror extremist just cause they are targeting muslims makes no difference.
Quebec mosque attack: Canada is not immune from anti-Muslim backlash

 

[idav]

Anyone ever hear of reverse physiology?
One must look at all possibilities before making a conclusion using only one assumption.

What are you trying to say? That ISIS can't possibly find any sympathizers? That muslims will more than happy to just stay away and or be deported?

 

[Revoltingest]

No reasoning involved Just Gut reaction against those that he had no business connections to.

How do you know this?
It appears to originate in the Obama admin.....
How the Trump administration chose the 7 countries in the immigration executive order - CNNPolitics.com

 

[Revoltingest]

Well the anti Muslim terrorism is already begun, makes them no better than any other terror extremist just cause they are targeting muslims makes no difference.
Quebec mosque attack: Canada is not immune from anti-Muslim backlash

Do you know that this is an anti-Muslim attack by non-Muslims?
It's awfully early to be certain of such a thing, particularly because
There's fake news about it, eg, The Daily Beast (who have since
retracted their earlier blaming of white supremacists.)

 

[Lyndon]

Anyone ever hear of reverse physiology?
One must look at all possibilities before making a conclusion using only one assumption.

, No I've never heard of reverse physiology and I don't think anyone here has either, what is it, homeopathic medicine???

 

[metis]

We have to realize that what Trump has been doing with his ban is feeding ISIS and other hate groups, upsetting our Muslim allies, and this is going to make us far less safe. Words have consequences, but discriminatory actions are even worse.

 

[Revoltingest]

I don't disagree but if this were truly about stopping radical Muslims from coming to the States as opposed to playing to a crowd then why has he not suspended all travel to America by Saudi Arabia - a country whom the American intelligence community knows had a hand in the 9/11 attacks; Afghanistan which is seeing an increase in Taliban activity; or Pakistan which is the Muslim version of Israel (not that you'll ever hear them complaining about it)?

I wonder why the Obama admin also excluded Saudi Arabia from special attention for terrorism risks.
I question Trump's decision, but also Obama's.
This appears to be a bi-partisan selection.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

How do you know this?
It appears to originate in the Obama admin.....
How the Trump administration chose the 7 countries in the immigration executive order - CNNPolitics.com

You mean Tramp did not think about what he was doing at all?
Saying "Just choose 7 countries. I don't care which"

This was a personal EO... not like something debated in congress.

Can you imagine any other presidents doing that.?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

How do you know this?
It appears to originate in the Obama admin.....
How the Trump administration chose the 7 countries in the immigration executive order - CNNPolitics.com

There was a suggested correlation in the news. I posted about it here Judge halts implementation of Trump's immigration order

If true it seems unlikely to be chance but there could be some third confounding variable like existing laws passed by the Obama administration that directed his business. I do consider it possible Trump is acting on previous actions of Obama.

I'll see if I can find more later but right now I am posting from my phone. It does however seem to be a very poorly planned order.

 

[Notanumber]

I expect that he has used Obama’s list for the first wave with more to follow.

 

[Scuba Pete]

Anyone ever hear of reverse physiology?

Nope. Can't say that I have! Perhaps, and since you're a Republican I can't be certain, but perhaps you meant "reverse psychology"??? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth or anything, but I bet that's what you were going for.

 

[sun rise]

I'm wondering why Afghanistan and Pakistan weren't in the list.

Money. He only went after the countries he does not get any money from. All those where he has business interests are just peachy-keen.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I wonder why the Obama admin also excluded Saudi Arabia from special attention for terrorism risks.
I question Trump's decision, but also Obama's.
This appears to be a bi-partisan selection.

In Obama's case it was probably to avoid offending an ally. Trump's behaviour indicates that's significantly less of a concern since Iraq & Mexico are U.S. allies and Trump hasn't batted an eye about pissing them off. And what about Egypt? The government hasn't exactly been pally-pally with the White House of late. I suspect his decision on who to include and exclude on this travel ban is influenced more by his own business interests than not.