ISIS in Ferguson

[columbus]

ISIS is encouraging Ferguson protesters to convert to Islam and shockingly one of the protester was holding a sign that said, "ISIS is here".
ISIS militants encourage Ferguson protesters to embrace Islamic extremism | Mail Online

I don't know much about the papers credibility. But the claim that ISIS raced to Missouri and held up signs advertising their presence is beyond ludicrous.

If there were anything that would be more likely to bring together all the residents of Ferguson faster than an invasion of ISIS I don't know what it would be.

Tom

 

[Mycroft]

Quartermass what do you make of this poll?

http://www.icmresearch.com/data/media/pdf/New%20EU%20Members-Combined-July%202014-V3.pdf

Go to page 2. I'm not sure if it's credible, but the agency which conducted the poll is.

Insufficient data. It doesn't say who their target demographic was, but let's assume it was Muslims.

A lot of Muslims support the idea of a Caliphate. Why? Because they don't understand it and it kind of sounds Muslim. They don't understand the reality behind the situation because, like you, they get their news from the curated media.

But pretty much all of the Muslims I know - And that's a lot - Don't support ISIS at all.

 

[Avi1001]

Visionaries don't get elected.

Occasionally they do...JFK, RFK, FDR, Lincoln...maybe a few others. Don't give up the dream !!

 

[MD]

Insufficient data. It doesn't say who their target demographic was, but let's assume it was Muslims.

Most Muslims support the idea of a Caliphate. Why? Because they don't understand it and it kind of sounds Muslim. They don't understand the reality behind the situation because, like you, they get their news from the curated media.

Actually I get my news from well known sources, but your personal attacks are quite funny.

Are you Iranian? You lived in Iran for a while, so you're either Persian, Azeri or some other ethnic group. Yet you never ever spoke against the government. Which is awfully suspect, because most Iranians who have lived in Iran and left have nothing but contempt for their government. Yet you constantly attack Israel and other Western sources and media.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If things keep going the way they have been, you will start to see economically deprived groups associate with radical Islam. It is happening in Europe.

And rise of Radical Islam leads to rise of Far Right.

Both are what happens when people are poor, disenfranchised and angry and don't know where to direct their anger or use it in a constructive way.

 

[ShivaFan]

ISIS is encouraging Ferguson protesters to convert to Islam and shockingly one of the protester was holding a sign that said, "ISIS is here".
ISIS militants encourage Ferguson protesters to embrace Islamic extremism | Mail Online

These ISIS SOBs are in Berkeley California too. I was listening to some sort of "fusion" music from the open window of my parked car just about time ISIS was first starting their march of genocide, and though I liked the music coming out of some coffee and beer club (I don't drink alcohol so I would not go in) because it had a Morocco sound to it which I like, well these old pigtail lefties in the club then were egged on to start CHEERING for ISIS. Like, "ISIS! ISIS! rah rah rah! - Kick em in the knee, kick em in the other knee ISIS ISIS rah rah rah!"

Dumb traitors, ISIS would cut their tongue out for drinking beer.

 

[Mycroft]

Actually I get my news from well known sources, but your personal attacks are quite funny.

Are you Iranian? You lived in Iran, so you're probably Persian or Iranian. Yet you never ever spoke against the government. Which is awfully fishy, because most Iranians who have lived in Iran and left have nothing but contempt for their government.

No. I'm british and white. I just decided to live in Iran because it was rather pleasant there. Despite what you maybe told. I even dated a nice lady who worked as a camera operator for the local news service. She also owned her own car.

But you're right, it's still under the grip of religious nut-jobs. But then so is America. *shrug*.

 

[MD]

Where did I say I went to school in Iran?

I thank you for your ad-hominems, which you seem to be unable to make a post without using. We have nothing further to discuss.

Please you are the king of ad homs. You explicitly spoke to Phil as if he was a child and then you said I get my news from crappy sources.

If you can't take it don't dish it.

 

[Alceste]

No. I'm british and white. I just decided to live in Iran because it was rather pleasant there. Despite what you maybe told. I even dated a nice lady who worked as a camera operator for the local news service. She also owned her own car.

But you're right, it's still under the grip of religious nut-jobs. But then so is America. *shrug*.

My Iranian friend has never even mentioned the government in the 20 years we've been close. She did get me to read Persepolis, though, so that's something. Great book.

 

[Mycroft]

My Iranian friend has never even mentioned the government in the 20 years we've been close. She did get me to read Persepolis, though, so that's something. Great book.

It isn't an issue for a lot of people because they live comparabily normal lives to us.

 

[MD]

My Iranian friend has never even mentioned the government in the 20 years we've been close. She did get me to read Persepolis, though, so that's something. Great book.

Wow, you read Persepolis and yet you continue to stick to your deluded points

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Occasionally they do...JFK, RFK, FDR, Lincoln...maybe a few others. Don't give up the dream !!

Yeah, and they all got killed! (Except for FDR, but he wasn't that great, anyway.)

 

[xkatz]

Yeah, and they all got killed! (Except for FDR, but he wasn't that great, anyway.)

Well at least we can agree on FDR!

 

[MD]

It isn't an issue for a lot of people because they live comparabily normal lives to us.

Says the ignorant foreigner...

How Iran persecutes its oldest religion - CNN.com
Persecution of Bahá'ís - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kurdish separatism in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Evin Prison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Women's rights in Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
""Bad hijab" ― exposure of any part of the body other than hands and face – is subject to punishment of up to 70 lashes or 60 days imprisonment.[11][12] In April 2007, the Tehran police, (which is under Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei's supervision), began the most fierce crackdown on what is known as "bad hijab" in more than a decade. In the capital Tehran thousands of Iranian women were cautioned over their poor Islamic dress and several hundred arrested.[13]"



This is what I mean by liberals defending islamists. Pure ******* ignorance, you are enemies of true freedom.

 

[Phil25]

You don't seem to be getting it. Let me explain it in alphabetti sphaghetti for you, little stringy pants:

The african-american, that's the black dude in case you need help with that one, too, is holding a sign saying 'ISIS HERE' He is saying that the ferguson police are like ISIS. That is his political statement manifested by his anger over the shooting of a fellow african-american.

I really don't know how much more simple I can make it for you.

Quatermass you dont seem to get that, that guy could well indicate his support of ISIS.

 

[Alceste]

It isn't an issue for a lot of people because they live comparabily normal lives to us.

Yes, she does. She lives here now, but she grew up in Iran. The only time she had issues with the government were when she was considering going back for a visit. She married her long term boyfriend specifically out of concern that if she went home the government wouldn't let her out again without a man's permission, which her father might deny. But then she learned the government wouldn't consider her marriage valid because her husband was not a Muslim, so she didn't go, and got a divorce. So all of that definitely sucked balls for her. And of course it totally sucks balls that women have so little freedom there. But I wouldn't say she "hates" the government. She doesn't think about it until it presents a direct problem to her personally. Much like the people I met in Cuba. Perfectly OK with the government until they had to have any direct dealings with it. Which is kind of how I feel about my government too, to be honest.

Most people just want to get on with their lives. It takes a special kind of person to spend all day every day shrieking about the horrors of the government of Iran and any other Islamic state they can think of.

 

[Alceste]

Wow, you read Persepolis and yet you continue to stick to your deluded points

Would you believe I even read Maus and I still think Israel should stop blowing up Palestinian children?

Amazing, isn't it!

 

[MD]

Yes, she does. She lives here now, but she grew up in Iran. The only time she had issues with the government were when she was considering going back for a visit. She married her long term boyfriend specifically out of concern that if she went home the government wouldn't let her out again without a man's permission, which her father might deny. But then she learned the government wouldn't consider her marriage valid because her husband was not a Muslim, so she didn't go, and got a divorce. So all of that definitely sucked balls for her. And of course it totally sucks balls that women have so little freedom there. But I wouldn't say she "hates" the government. She doesn't think about it until it presents a direct problem to her personally. Much like the people I met in Cuba. Perfectly OK with the government until they had to have any direct dealings with it. Which is kind of how I feel about my government too, to be honest.

Most people just want to get on with their lives. It takes a special kind of person to spend all day every day shrieking about the horrors of the government of Iran and any other Islamic state they can think of.

Maybe if that person came from a community which faced centuries of ethnic genocide it would be different. Maybe if that person had family members who saw their own families killed by the Basij it would be different. Or of the family friend whose father was tied back to back with another officer loyal to the Shah and shot with one bullet, to be thrown over a bridge as the dying man drags the living one down with him. Or a friend who watched an innocent woman stoned, to watch her sons which threw the first stones to sit and cry after she bled to death on the 3rd day, it would be different. Or of the torture that women go through in Evin prison.

Shall I tell you other stories? Maybe if that person heard horror story after horror story from speaking to hundreds of Iranians, instead of the ONE that you know, it would be different. I've actually worked with Iranian aid agencies. You haven't. All you know is to rant off your nonsense.

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[CynthiaCypher]

Would you believe I even read Maus and I still think Israel should stop blowing up Palestinian children?

Amazing, isn't it!

I've read Abraham Heschel, Anne Frank and some of Maimonides and I believe all of them are spinning in their graves right now.

 

[Alceste]

Maybe if that person came from a community which faced centuries of ethnic genocide it would be different. Maybe if that person had family members who saw their own families killed by the Basij it would be different. Or of the family friend whose father was tied back to back with another officer loyal to the Shah and shot with one bullet, to be thrown over a bridge as the dying man drags the living one down with him. Or a friend who watched an innocent woman stoned, to watch her sons which threw the first stones to sit and cry after she bled to death on the 3rd day, it would be different. Or of the torture that women go through in Evin prison.

Shall I tell you other stories? Maybe if that person heard horror story after horror story from speaking to hundreds of Iranians, instead of the ONE that you know, it would be different. I've actually worked with Iranian aid agencies. You haven't. All you know is to rant off your nonsense.

You are an evil, deluded, cold person. And you have no idea about the real world. All you know is the theory you have read and nothing of the real world. A typical liberal.

Shahz, I feel the polite thing to do is let you know I'm putting you on ignore. I doubt anybody else here wants to read all the spiteful gibberish you have begun to spew at me with increasing fervour in every conversation, so for their sake it is better if I don't engage with you at all. Don't worry, I'm not in the least bit offended.

Best of luck with your future endeavours!