Islam and people who wear the hijab

[TashaN]

We do have a minority of fundamentalist who are fanatics who do bad things.

This happens so little though, it is not even on the radar.

NOW lets look at muslims, who own the terrorist title of being the most terrorist out of any religion or culture or state.


In comparison, it is not like david and goliath. It slike the empire state building representing muslims, compared to david standing in front of the building.

Ok great. imagine please. You are comparing between a civilized nation, super power, wealthy, stable, with violated nations, invaded, less educated, poor, and desperate. That's indeed a fair assessment you got out there.

I'm sure if it was the other way around, and Muslims were a super power, educated, and wealthy, they won't go blow up clinics the way you do.

 

[Pegg]

So are you saying that he asked them to actually buy weapons in order to teach them that they are bad and not to be used?

This is like you ask your son to go and buy a gun in order to bring it home and teach him by example that carrying guns are bad?

I hope you are not being serious in here.

of course im being serious.

humans learn by experience. Its usually not until we've experienced something that we trully appreciate it or understand it.

Jesus knew exactly how best to teach his disciples because he knows how we are made and how we learn and how we think and reason. He chose the method that would work best to teach a very important lesson on the use of force and violence. He put them into a situation where they were under attack, and then showed them, by example, what they needed to do....put the weapons down and dont resist your enemies. And that is exactly what Jesus did on that night.

And we can say that his followers absolutely learned that lesson and applied it because historically, they were known for their refusal to participate in combat and war even choosing to be imprisoned or put to death rather then participate.

Then why God says in the Bible that he will cause it to happen? why does he condone it?

God doesnt control peoples actions. He has allowed mankind a free reign to do their own thing. Sadly, mankind do some very nasty things to one another because they are all choosing their own standards.

Jehovah has given mankind his laws and asks them to live by them...none of those laws permit any kind of cruel or unjust behaviour toward anyone. Just as the Mosiac law give through Moses states:
Leviticus 19:18 “‘You must not take vengeance nor hold a grudge against the sons of your people, and you must love your fellow man as yourself. I am Jehovah

 

[outhouse]

Ok great. imagine please. You are comparing between a civilized nation, super power, wealthy, stable, with violated nations, invaded, less educated, poor, and desperate. That's indeed a fair assessment you got out there.

I'm sure if it was the other way around, and Muslims were a super power, educated, and wealthy, they won't go blow up clinics the way you do.

Poor excuse from someone that should be educated on these subjects.

Saudi's are very wealthy, what's there excuse? the religion?

 

[TashaN]

of course im being serious.

humans learn by experience. Its usually not until we've experienced something that we trully appreciate it or understand it.

Jesus knew exactly how best to teach his disciples because he knows how we are made and how we learn and how we think and reason. He chose the method that would work best to teach a very important lesson on the use of force and violence. He put them into a situation where they were under attack, and then showed them, by example, what they needed to do....put the weapons down and dont resist your enemies. And that is exactly what Jesus did on that night.

And we can say that his followers absolutely learned that lesson and applied it because historically, they were known for their refusal to participate in combat and war even choosing to be imprisoned or put to death rather then participate.

These are your personal interpretations or they are mentioned in the bible itself? because if it is just your own so it might be wrong.

God doesnt control peoples actions. He has allowed mankind a free reign to do their own thing. Sadly, mankind do some very nasty things to one another because they are all choosing their own standards.

Jehovah has given mankind his laws and asks them to live by them...none of those laws permit any kind of cruel or unjust behaviour toward anyone. Just as the Mosiac law give through Moses states:
Leviticus 19:18 “‘You must not take vengeance nor hold a grudge against the sons of your people, and you must love your fellow man as yourself. I am Jehovah

Thank you for your explanation.

 

[TashaN]

Poor excuse from someone that should be educated on these subjects.

Saudi's are very wealthy, what's there excuse? the religion?

No point in being wealthy without having the civilization and the strength which can sustain and nourish this wealth. The US is a great civilization, and they have one of the strongest armies in the world, and they are the sole super power in this world, so there is absolutely no comparison between the two. if the US decided to invade Saudi Arabia and secure the oil there, they can do it within couple of days successfully. You get what i mean now?

 

[Chev Chelios]

This is a pure generalization. So those christians who blow up clinics are few crazy people who need help and God forbid that Christians do any bad thing, but Muslims are a bunch of terrorists. Good assessment. Bravo!

No Tashan. I stated a fact regarding Islamic terrorism, how it overflows the world over and that it is simply nonsensical to compare this profuseness with any other terrorism carried out in the name of Christianity or any other faith. There is no comparison. I never once said all Moslems are terrorists or that all violent acts by Moslems implicate the faith – I do make a distinction between violent acts by Moslems as a result of the temporal violent nature of man and that which is religiously inspired. So we see that it is you who makes the sweeping generalisations!

You are the problem Tashan and it is your excuse making and hand wringing of Islam’s role in what we are seeing which allows it to gain momentum. I am sure you consider yourself an all round Moderate Moslem yet here you are lying about Islams clear role in terrorism for goodness sake. It is because of this silent majority that allows Islamism to have the oxygen to prosper. I have scant time for the whining of the moderate for all it has done is muddy the waters, and in these ultra PC times, meant people are too afraid to trust or indeed say what it is that they can see with their own eyes. This ‘moderate’ majority, which is apparently 99.9%, has thus far proved completely in-effectual in stopping the terror enacted by so many followers of this faith. Did this 99.9% moderate majority stop the formation of ISIS? And will it be this 99.9% moderate majority that stops them?

 

[Chev Chelios]

Ok great. imagine please. You are comparing between a civilized nation, super power, wealthy, stable, with violated nations, invaded, less educated, poor, and desperate. That's indeed a fair assessment you got out there.

I'm sure if it was the other way around, and Muslims were a super power, educated, and wealthy, they won't go blow up clinics the way you do.

Here, it seems to me as if your excuses for Islamism is meandering along the lines of the good ole ‘geopolitical’ argument to explain away the trouble we are seeing with Islam. I am sorry but it is not geopolitics which created the idea of death for apostasy, death for adultery, death for blasphemy, the subordination of women, persecution of other religions, the desire to bring the world under Islamic hegemony and all the rest of it - it was the very texts of the faith! Sorry but the unpalatable truth is that the troubles seen in all Moslem majority countries, certainly in terms of human rights but also economically, derive from adherence to a mediaeval culture which promotes religion beyond its natural place in the affairs of mankind, institutionalises oppression of women and is hostile to innovation because all the questions about the direction of your life have been answered for you. Considering this I think it takes a tremendous leap of faith to believe that it is all about geopolitics! Also – the terrorism we see does have quite a substantial scriptural basis in Islam’s holy texts and it is these texts we see the likes of the Taliban and ISIS quote to qualify their actions.

I just watched an interview on the BBC with an Imam who also calls him self a ‘Moderate Moslem’ and yet he had the absolute audacity to say Islam has nothing to do with beheading! Well, he obviously didn’t read the part where Muhammad, the perfect man, ordered and was involved in the beheading of a whole tribe of Jews! Of course, beheading has been the mode of death of choice throughout Islam’s history and there are specific verses in the Koran which explicitly reference beheading. So I wonder where all these Jihadi’s get their idea from exactly?

 

[Maldini]

What iranian mullahs call a decent hijab :

 

[Draupadi]

No bigoted mullahs would never support form revealing clothes. In addition some prefer only the eye(s) to be exposed or better none.