Islam, how much do you really know about it?

[Gharib]

I don't think not understanding one another is limited to one topic. If you said that one or the other had no knowledge that would be a different thing. But not understanding each other is (for me) a fundamental flaw in communication that spreads accross more than just one topic.

every one has their views so i guess thats yours.

I know islam already.

good for you. you aren't a muslim by any chance, you are from germany i must say

 

[Gharib]

why its simple eselam the purpose of life is to -----live.

ok, nice answer, i wasnt expecting it but it is good.

so whats after that. do you beleive in judgment day, in heaven in hell, if yes can you give a description of what life is in those places

 

[kai]

ok, nice answer, i wasnt expecting it but it is good.

so whats after that. do you beleive in judgment day, in heaven in hell, if yes can you give a description of what life is in those places

i don't believe in judgment day or heaven or hell and whats after life? the honest answer would be , i don't know!

 

[Gharib]

i don't believe in judgment day or heaven or hell and whats after life? the honest answer would be , i don't know!

so doesn't that make our mission on this life to find out about the next possibility.
so where back on the first question: "what is the purpose of life", would you say that it is our mission to find out about those things (hell, heaven etc)

 

[ThereIsNoSpoon]

you aren't a muslim by any chance, you are from germany i must say

lol, that was a good one.
Do you always "reason" like that ?

 

[Luminous]

The purpose of life is to live it.

 

[challupa]

I also agree that the purpose of life is to live it. I will go a step farther and say that living it fully and richly becomes quite difficult when weighted down with centuries of dogma, which are just other people's idea of what life is about. I believe we need to think for ourselves, determine what is right for us, critically analyse the dogma we were raised with, ask if it's good for the world we live in, and if it isn't, let it go. I believe that we have bought into other people's ideas of what life is about for far to long. Each human is unique. Therefore the meaning for each of us is uniquely different. We do ourselves a great disservice when we blindly believe what others have decided and never search for the answers in what things mean to us uniquely. I personally look to the one thing that makes me feel best. That happens to be love. When I love someone or something I feel wonderful. When I feel loved it makes me feel wonderful. When I act out of love I again, feel wonderful. When I don't act out of love, or feel loved, or love, I feel empty and then I feel awful. I think we need to pay attention to those things. How things make us feel are a good monitor at a deeper level that we are on track ourselves. This varies for all of us. This is what works for me though...

 

[Luminous]

I also agree that the purpose of life is to live it. I will go a step farther and say that living it fully and richly becomes quite difficult when weighted down with centuries of dogma, which are just other people's idea of what life is about. I believe we need to think for ourselves, determine what is right for us, critically analyse the dogma we were raised with, ask if it's good for the world we live in, and if it isn't, let it go. I believe that we have bought into other people's ideas of what life is about for far to long. Each human is unique. Therefore the meaning for each of us is uniquely different. We do ourselves a great disservice when we blindly believe what others have decided and never search for the answers in what things mean to us uniquely. I personally look to the one thing that makes me feel best. That happens to be love. When I love someone or something I feel wonderful. When I feel loved it makes me feel wonderful. When I act out of love I again, feel wonderful. When I don't act out of love, or feel loved, or love, I feel empty and then I feel awful. I think we need to pay attention to those things. How things make us feel are a good monitor at a deeper level that we are on track ourselves. This varies for all of us. This is what works for me though...

The Catholic Church disagrees with you, they say that people should live their lifes the way the Chuch instructs them because people are fallible.

But: isn't the Church made up of people; so to the Church wrong^nth = right, as long as its their wrong^nth.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

ok Don. how did you become to be. did you evolve from a monkey of from bacteria. you were created in the woumb of your mother just as everyone else. so why is it stupid to say that you were created and isnted say you evolved.
and can you tell me from what you evolved. i'd like to know, since you've mentioned that alot.

Urrgghh...Your ignorance and incompetence gets a little tiring after a while...

I did not say we evolved from a monkey, in fact i do not know what humans evolved from. Until Riverwolf said, that is, Great Apes.

I was concieved. I was not "created." Everyone is concieved (you know, when a sperm cell fertilises an egg) That is being convienced, not creation.

 

[Luminous]

species evolve, and the human species evolved from 'great apes'. We are just a different kind of animal. like comparing rats and rabbits.

 

[challupa]

species evolve, and the human species evolved from 'great apes'. We are just a different kind of animal. like comparing rats and rabbits.

I have to say that we did not evolve from the great apes, rather we evolved alongside of the great apes and share a common ancestor.

Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans are more closely related to modern apes than to monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes, either. Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids many of which died out, became extinct.

 

[Peace]

To all those who believe in evolution.

We will arrive to no agreement between us. I would say that to you what you believe in and to us, Muslims our belief. What you believe in, I mean here evolution, is a mere fancy of a man, a creature of God, and what we Muslims believe is from God the Creator of humain beings and all the creatures that exist and the creator of the whole universe, who explained to us the story of our creation which is very simple.

 

[Luminous]

I have no believes, i only know the truth and wish to share it with everyone.:sarcastic

 

[challupa]

I have no believes, i only know the truth and wish to share it with everyone.

Wow...:run:

 

[Breathe]

Wow...:run:

Yeah.. Wow... :run:

 

[Riverwolf]

species evolve, and the human species evolved from 'great apes'. We are just a different kind of animal. like comparing rats and rabbits.

Probably a better comparison would be rats and mice.

 

[Riverwolf]

I have to say that we did not evolve from the great apes, rather we evolved alongside of the great apes and share a common ancestor.

Humans did not evolve from monkeys. Humans are more closely related to modern apes than to monkeys, but we didn't evolve from apes, either. Humans share a common ancestor with modern African apes, like gorillas and chimpanzees. Scientists believe this common ancestor existed 5 to 8 million years ago. Shortly thereafter, the species diverged into two separate lineages. One of these lineages ultimately evolved into gorillas and chimps, and the other evolved into early human ancestors called hominids many of which died out, became extinct.

In fact, all of them, except us, died out.

We are literally the last of our kind.

 

[challupa]

In fact, all of them, except us, died out.

We are literally the last of our kind.

Oh I don't know, I think I've seen some Neaderthals around... LOL, just kidding.

 

[Gharib]

In fact, all of them, except us, died out.

how can they die out? there are apes present in the world, so what they stopped reacting or something. face it you guys just follow something that has no real answer. in the Kur'an the dull (i think thats the appropriate word) is destinguished from the true, and it is not something hard to understand, i mean where does the rain come from it comes from Allah, so where did humans come from, they too came from Allah, and where did the evolution start< it never started but people made it up.

i'd like to make a question: YOU guys beleive in the evolution only bcause YOU have some similarities with the monkeys, or you found some people that look like half monkey half human when their sculls got analysed. well what about those hairy people in todays society, are they monkeys, eveeryone is uniwues and if you think that a face like monkey is half human half a monkey then thats just a waste of time.

We are literally the last of our kind.

no we're not. theres about 6 billion monkey evolutionists present in the world, well minus the 1.5 billion muslims, that leaves 4.5 of you.

and can you tell me how your uncestors became extinc, i would like to know what you are taught about that, i want to have a guess firts ok, here goes:

did they go extict by fired rocks falling from the sky?

 

[Caladan]

no we're not. theres about 6 billion monkey evolutionists present in the world, well minus the 1.5 billion muslims, that leaves 4.5 of you.

Good job at making us understand that the Qur'an does not call non Muslims monkeys and its all out of context