Islam will dominate!

[301ouncer]

The masses were touched by the fire of tyranny and colonialism....not secularism

Secularism is not a problem as long as it's not forced on muslims..and islam is not a problem as long as it's not forced on non muslims....both ,secularism and the islamic regime should be a reflection of the people's will and free choice.

Hey Maro, Did you delete your post addressed to me in regards to the hatred and enmity displayed on muslims in the Quran?

Did you delete it because I am sure I read it. Why back peddling? Scared that I would discredit you?

Ok. Now you can go back to your choclate factory.

 

[.lava]

With all due no respect. Did you open your mouth to defend the tender bodies of these burned out alive muslim babies?

No. You would rather come to the aid of your comrads.

So please stay and be quite till the end of this thread.

no, he should speak. i support Badran. you have no right to tell him not to and you accuse him unjustly. i keep seeing this one picture under this thread. i can't help but get curious about one thing. does it really matter if these kids were Muslims? who cares if they were Muslims or Jews or whatever? entire thread you and others keep discussing over titles and names. this is tragic indeed. seems like religion of people who killed these kids is more important than children themselves. when will people stop joining this ridicules ego fight and find some common ground to stand against this cruelty of madness?

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[Wannabe Yogi]

Response: The irony of such a post is the simple fact that the history of hindu and indian culture on record is just as heinous, if not more gruesome, than that recorded of islamic conquest of India. So such a writing irrational from the start.

There was war in pre Islamic India. There is no evidence of large scale Religious persecution. There has been of late religious persecution in modern India. The example of this is GUJARAT India. Just over 1000 muslims died for this all Hindu should feel bad. I feel for the suffering of our Muslim brothers and sisters.

In the ancient past India was different. This is what the greek Megasthenes (4th century B.C) noticed a peculiar trait of Indian warfare.

"Whereas among other nations it is usual in the contests of war to ravage the soil, and thus to reduce it to an uncultivated waste, among the Indians, on the contrary, by whom husbandmen, the tillers of the soil, even if battle is raging in the neighborhood, are undisturbed by any sense of danger, for the combatants on either side, in waging the conflict, make carnage of each other but allow those engaged in husbandry to remain quite unmolested. Besides they never ravage an enemy's land with fire nor cut down its trees."

Just to let you know I feel that Islam had a more peaceful history in places like Spain. The Jews were better off under muslim rule then christian.

 

[301ouncer]

What?

"Comrades". When my "comrades" are denying reality, and throwing pointless and proof-less accusations around, and can't take the same treatment when applied to them, i have no interest to "aid" them in their delusions.

Your behavior is basically an embarrassment, and it causes so much harm. You force people to bring up crimes perpetrated by Muslims, you make generalized and random claims that has nothing to do with reality, and can't accept any kind of criticism, so don't expect any help from me. And i will argue against you as long as you act this way.

Be very carefull....

(60) O you who believe! Take not the jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliya' of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliya'), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust).
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #51)

 

[xkatz]

no, he should speak. i support Badran. you have no right to tell him not to and you accuse him unjustly. i keep seeing this one picture under this thread. i can't help but get curious about one thing. does it really matter if these kids were Muslims? who cares if they were Muslims or Jews or whatever? entire thread you and others keep discussing over titles and names. this is tragic indeed. seems like religion of people who killed these kids is more important than children themselves. when will people stop joining this ridicules ego fight and find some common ground to stand against this cruelty of madness?

Spot on .lava. These kinds of events are always tragedies, regardless of who the perpetrators and/or who the victims are. It should not matter what the people believe or practice, but rather what they commit or what was committed upon them by others.

 

[Badran]

Be very carefull....

(60) O you who believe! Take not the jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliya' of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliya'), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust).
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #51)

You know you are a really funny guy. Why did you make the word "jews" in red?

Anyway educate me more, and tell me where in the Quran does it say that i shouldn't stop my fellow Muslims when they are being unjust to others?

Because this is what i see you are doing here.

 

[Fatihah]

There was war in pre Islamic India. There is no evidence of large scale Religious persecution. There has been of late religious persecution in modern India. The example of this is GUJARAT India. Just over 1000 muslims died for this all Hindu should feel bad. I feel for the suffering of our Muslim brothers and sisters.

In the ancient past India was different. This is what the greek Megasthenes (4th century B.C) noticed a peculiar trait of Indian warfare.

"Whereas among other nations it is usual in the contests of war to ravage the soil, and thus to reduce it to an uncultivated waste, among the Indians, on the contrary, by whom husbandmen, the tillers of the soil, even if battle is raging in the neighborhood, are undisturbed by any sense of danger, for the combatants on either side, in waging the conflict, make carnage of each other but allow those engaged in husbandry to remain quite unmolested. Besides they never ravage an enemy's land with fire nor cut down its trees."

Just to let you know I feel that Islam had a more peaceful history in places like Spain. The Jews were better off under muslim rule then christian.

Response: I agree. And for the record, I don't deny that muslims did not commit acts of violence unjustly. They have. But unfortunately, it was to........each other. Muslim history of injust violence is predominately of muslim against muslim, not muslims and non-muslims. No muslim empire conquered any non-muslim land by force for any unjust cause. The conflict has always been, as it is today, an internal conflict. But when it came to the treatment of non-muslims, it was good for the most part.

 

[.lava]

Be very carefull....

(60) O you who believe! Take not the jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliya' of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliya'), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust).
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #51)

if you are saying Christians and Jews can never be just, you are wrong.
if you are saying we Muslims should support or at least ignore wrong doings of people just because they are Muslims too, you are again wrong.

btw, Zalimun means CRUEL

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[xkatz]

No muslim empire conquered any non-muslim land by force for any unjust cause.

There's your statement, now were's the proof?

 

[Wannabe Yogi]

LOL they qouting from Mongols. The mongols even after imbracing islam never left their barbaric ways. They did this same thing to their own arab muslim brothern in Syria too.

Look I have a very large personal Library and know of many places I can get Info off the Internet. I can also give you direct quotes from all types of Muslims during the invasion of India. I can flood you with information if you like.
I am not attacking Muslims or Islam in fact I see it as a path to God. Not the only path but one of the many. I do find it very upsetting when Hindus or Muslims refuses to look at the facts of History. The least you could do is open your eyes and say. Yes bad things happen. If I can't look at the truth my faith and beliefs are worth less. I am then just living in the state of denial and not a state of grace.

 

[301ouncer]

You know what the difference between me and you is:

If that PIC had hindu men standing of the charad bodies of hindu babies. I would on my beaurifull girls lives denounce them, Expose them muslims and share with your grieve.

BUT....

You on the other hand out of extreme hatered for Islam and Muslims you will deny these barbaric acts and be 100% supportive of your hindu comrads all the way to burikna faso as you are doing right here right now.

For all to see. That was my point of keep going round in circles to be proved correct.

As many said here correctly. I am a right piece of work.

Here is nameless. My prove of your denial of the crimes against these burnd alive baby tender bodies is without a showdow of doubt is:

Your extereme hatered and jeoulsy of Islam and muslims:

(70) Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun (Polythists) and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #82)

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[xkatz]

Here is nameless. My prove of your denial of the crimes against these burnd alive baby tender bodies is without a showdow of doubt is:

Your extereme hatered and jeoulsy of Islam and muslims:

(70) Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun (Polythists) and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #82)

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What do Jewish people have to do with this?

Also, your quotation with the picture seems to suggest that Israel is the voice of all the Jewish people in the world. This is not true at all.

 

[LuisDantas]

Here is nameless. My prove of your denial of the crimes against these burnd alive baby tender bodies is without a showdow of doubt is:

Your extereme hatered and jeoulsy of Islam and muslims:

Uh? Since when was supposed "extreme hatred" proof of denial?

At the most it could be a reason to suspect one's words and/or motivation.

You're simply assuming the worst. That is a dangerous thing to do, because it encourages others to meet your expectations by acting in the worst ways they can.

 

[Badran]

no, he should speak. i support Badran. you have no right to tell him not to and you accuse him unjustly. i keep seeing this one picture under this thread. i can't help but get curious about one thing. does it really matter if these kids were Muslims? who cares if they were Muslims or Jews or whatever? entire thread you and others keep discussing over titles and names. this is tragic indeed. seems like religion of people who killed these kids is more important than children themselves. when will people stop joining this ridicules ego fight and find some common ground to stand against this cruelty of madness?

.

Thank you .lava, you are always a fair, just and peaceful person, certainly a good example of a Muslim, one i'm personally proud of.

 

[Fatihah]

There's your statement, now were's the proof?

Response: The only way to prove that something doesn't exists is to demonstrate that there is no logical proof that it does exist. So from your posts alone, you've demonstrated that fact for us, that no muslim empire conquered land by force, as you don't have the slightest proof that it has.

 

[DeitySlayer]

There's your statement, now were's the proof?

LOOOOOOOOOL Brilliant! I would give you frubals, but I'm all out, sorry.

 

[301ouncer]

Here is nameless. My prove of your denial of the crimes against these burnd alive baby tender bodies is without a showdow of doubt is:

Your extereme hatered and jeoulsy of Islam and muslims:

(70) Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun (Polythists) and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #82)

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(70) Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun (Polythists) and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #82)

You so proud that you can not bring yourself nameless of the attrocites committed against defenceless babies.

Please do me a favour nameless and increase my faith in the Quran by keep denying the crimes committed out of your hatered and enmity.

 

[DeitySlayer]

Response: The only way to prove that something doesn't exists is to demonstrate that there is no logical proof that it does exist. So from your posts alone, you've demonstrated that fact for us, that no muslim empire conquered land by force, as you don't have the slightest proof that it has.

We have, only you have constantly ignored it and made inane statements like 'it's a statement' or decrying all non-Muslim sources or anything that puts the Mughals or any Islamic Empire in a bad light as faked by Hindus or some anti-Islam pyscho.

 

[301ouncer]

Thank you .lava, you are always a fair, just and peaceful person, certainly a good example of a Muslim, one i'm personally proud of.

Both of you guys are so defeatest in your Dawah and explanation of Islam that makes my hair on my back stand up.

When you post in every thread you sound so defeatest that your post hardly makes a difference and make me go to sleep.

Sound very sufie like infulences of your lands.

Had to be said. Out.

 

[DeitySlayer]

Both of you guys are so defeatest in your Dawah and explanation of Islam that makes my hair on my back stand up.

When you post in every thread you sound so defeatest that your post hardly makes a difference and make me go to sleep.

Sound very sufie like infulences of your lands.

Had to be said. Out.

So wait, when someone isn't being a radical pyscho advocating the Muslim conquests, denying all evidence to the contrary and decrying Jews and Christians as inherently untruthful, they're being defeatist? Wow. Defeatism sounds good. 'No True Scotsman' argument again, eh? This is getting old.