Islam will dominate!

[zenzero]

Friend fatiha,

Response: In islam, muslims have an obligation to respect non-muslims

You do not consider yourself *human* as if you were not a muslim you would not respect others?? Since you are a muslim and your scripture says it you will respect others.

Dharmic religions says that you are all part of existence and so one is realted to every other being even animals or trees and so one respects everyone and everything by being part of the same brahma/whole whatever label you wish to give not restricted to any one.
Forms that are prayed/respected are all representation of that same entity/energy/whole and so treated as gods. Those who do not respect the other only disrespects his own *self* as there is nothing as others it is all ONE.

Love & rgds

 

[Badran]

Bad, you actually sound rather calm reasonable even thoughtful.

You sure you're a Muslim?

Thanks for your nice words.

and yes i'm pretty sure i'm a Muslim.

 

[301ouncer]

Thanks for your nice words.

and yes i'm pretty sure i'm a Muslim.

(9) Those who take disbelievers for Auliya' (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honour, power and glory.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #139)

heheeheee.

 

[301ouncer]

Friend fatiha,

Dharmic religions says that you are all part of existence and so one is realted to every other being even animals or trees and so one respects everyone and everything by being part of the same brahma/whole whatever label you wish to give not restricted to any one.
Forms that are prayed/respected are all representation of that same entity/energy/whole and so treated as gods. Those who do not respect the other only disrespects his own *self* as there is nothing as others it is all ONE.

Love & rgds

Where these babies/humand beings part of the existence and so one is related to every other being?

Is burikna faso also in anyway related to Muzambik?

Lovely love 301

 

[Badran]

(9) Those who take disbelievers for Auliya' (protectors or helpers or friends) instead of believers, do they seek honour, power and glory with them? Verily, then to Allah belongs all honour, power and glory.
( سورة النساء , An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #139)

heheeheee.

Again, do you actually understand what this verse is saying?

 

[301ouncer]

Response: Clear proofs are not in need to be backed up by evidence. If you insist that it's not proof, then you should provide proof as to why, which you have not. Thus your insbility to do so is proof enough.

End of. They really believe that we (Myself) will ever again believe anything they bring after the saga of the beurifull babies.

We are told to be very carefull of liers and the bodies of the tender babies inform us never again.

 

[301ouncer]

Perhaps you'll come to the understanding that accepting past atrocities is not a mark of weakness but one of moral maturity and acceptance to move on and look to the future. If Iran and all your other havens of 'real' Islam carry on in their aggressive manner, they're just going to get ****** over by the West. Freedom and free-speech is something that I will not give up easily to a bunch of moronic, history-denying, sickeningly disrespectful fools.

Always at the end they loose their temper and name calling starts. Secular system is indeed intellectually bankrupt.

So far we have been asked to shutup, called Morons, fools.

 

[301ouncer]

Response: Says the person who can't provide a shred of proof for any statement he claims. Perhaps you will realize that such consistancy only works in my favor, and discredits yours. And to claim atrocities that never took place as true is a reflection of just how moral you are to begin with. Advocates of peace only preach peace, not advocate false accounts of atrocities, as you do. But apparently, low moral is not discouraging to you. To that, we can only just pray for you.

Ah what a golden response. You are mashAllah will always look upto. How beaurifull and after the threat of nukes and personnal insults, you pray for him.

Fatihah I will never forget you. We shall meet soon. :yes:

 

[301ouncer]

Response: To the contrary, the shame is watching one call themself a muslim sister, and make claims that other muslims use the qur'an to insult people and cause hatred, but provide no proof of such. The act alone is not only slander, but slander to another muslim, which in the eyes of Allah is more offensive. Yet the same sister befriends non-muslims who slander islam, rather then refuting them with the message of islam. All the while, claiming that her Imam is love, but showing such a lack thereof to Allah(swt). If that is the path you take, so be it. But in the end, Allah will judge you accordingly.

I dont want to cause mischief between you two but I am sure our lilli sister is learning. Please lava do not slander us again. Very dangerous.

Turkish sufisim infulence does not help. My mum is a turk but not dad. Ah she is so sweet.

 

[301ouncer]

Response: I'm no where near upset. My humility is strong enough not to get upset with what a person says to me on a website. I'm merely stating my view. Likewise you are stating yours. And when I see you, who professes to be a muslim slander other muslims, including myself, and befriend those who slander Allah, I'm going to address it. Especially when you claim a message of love, yet slander at the same time. Such hypocrisy is defaming to islam and as a muslim, I 'm obligated to speak on it.

Yep. Sorry lava I am with Fatihah all the way.

Harsh to the believers and soft to the disbelievers. It should be the opposite. But when they slander you and you respond they will say why are you hash on us. Have seen quite alot of that all the time.

 

[LuisDantas]

301ouncer, I'm pretty certain that no one who participated in this thread is unsympathetic to the grave suffering of those babies.

Being Muslim is DEFINITELY not a prerequisite to abbhor such tragedies, I assure you. As .lava said, very properly, this has nothing to do with either Islam or Muslim people in any way. It is a tragedy that supercedes such minor distinctions.

 

[301ouncer]

And what difference have your posts made?

The reaction to exposing their links from dusk till dawn is what I happy with.

Their showing burnt out bodies of tender loving muslim babies and turning them into hindu babies has uttlery spooked them.

Exposing the secular system and its rotten foundation and dwarfing darkness is also evident in their discusst at me by the overwhelming reaction.

Did not want to show off but you forced me to.

 

[301ouncer]

Again, do you actually understand what this verse is saying?

again where did your go? Did I spoil your day? did the above truthfull verse wipe that smile of your face?

You remind me of those people who read the quran everyday but they do not understand it.

Mind you I do not read it everyday. I wish.

 

[Badran]

The reaction to exposing their links from dusk till dawn is what I happy with.

Are you happy with them attacking Islam and showing crimes perpetrated by Muslims? I'm not talking about the babies, but in general. I mean surely you know that some Muslims around the world have did crimes right?

Their showing burnt out bodies of tender loving muslim babies and turning them into hindu babies has uttlery spooked them.

I don't know enough information about the babies incident, so i don't who did it.

Exposing the secular system and its rotten foundation and dwarfing darkness is also evident in their discusst at me by the overwhelming reaction.

That's not why they are responding to you that way, it is because you blame every crime perpetrated in the west on secularism. Also, because you are demeaning other people's religions and beliefs.

Why? Why do you think this helps Islam?

 

[Badran]

again where did your go? Did I spoil your day? did the above truthfull verse wipe that smile of your face?

You remind me of those people who read the quran everyday but they do not understand it.

Mind you I do not read it everyday. I wish.

This verse is talking about people who take the disbelievers as allies Instead of believers, not with believers.

Also, when you are being unjust to people, i will line up against you.

 

[301ouncer]

301ouncer, I'm pretty certain that no one who participated in this thread is unsympathetic to the grave suffering of those babies.

Being Muslim is DEFINITELY not a prerequisite to abbhor such tragedies, I assure you. As .lava said, very properly, this has nothing to do with either Islam or Muslim people in any way. It is a tragedy that supercedes such minor distinctions.

Still close but not quite. Keep it up. That verse that I pasted a few pages ago you will never be able to discredit it. The enmosity gets inbtween you and you fall short again.

Destruction of a mosque is nothing to do with muslim people?

 

[301ouncer]

This verse is talking about people who take the disbelievers as allies Instead of believers, not with believers.

what what? come again. You not making sense.

Also, when you are being unjust to people, i will line up against you.

Go read hadith sahih hadith. Be with your brother even if he is the opperssor but work with him to stop his oppression.

What unjustice I am doing? I posted a video of missionaris worried of the rise of Islam. I talk to some respectfully about secular systems.

 

[301ouncer]

Still close but not quite. Keep it up. That verse that I pasted a few pages ago you will never be able to discredit it. The enmosity gets inbtween you and you fall short again.

Destruction of a mosque is nothing to do with muslim people?

Here is the verse again for you to try to tackle it:

(70) Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the jews and those who are Al-Mushrikun (Polythists) and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: "We are Christians." That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.
( سورة المائدة , Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #82)

As I said before I promise on my family that I would stand shoulder to shoulder against anyone who does anything similar to that to muslim or nonmuslim.

We are not arrogant people.

 

[301ouncer]

Are you happy with them attacking Islam and showing crimes perpetrated by Muslims? I'm not talking about the babies, but in general. I mean surely you know that some Muslims around the world have did crimes right?

nothing in comparison. we do not go round burning babies. as for the secular system. again nothing in comparison.

I don't know enough information about the babies incident, so i don't who did it.

keep it up.

That's not why they are responding to you that way, it is because you blame every crime perpetrated in the west on secularism. Also, because you are demeaning other people's religions and beliefs.

Why? Why do you think this helps Islam?

Yes it has nothing to do with christianity or islam but surely with secularisim.

Christianity is not the system in play or in opertion so is islam. Secularisim is in play and is in operation.

 

[Badran]

what what? come again. You not making sense.

I mean that the verse is talking about people who make friends and allies of disbelievers instead of believers, as in they choose the disbelievers over the believers because they seek honor or power or anything else.

Go read hadith sahih hadith. Be with your brother even if he is the opperssor but work with him to stop his oppression.

If a Muslim wants to kill someone and i'm standing there, shouldn't i stop him. That's what i mean, i'm not being against you in general, i mean only in that situation by telling you what i think.

What unjustice I am doing? I posted a video of missionaris worried of the rise of Islam. I talk to some respectfully about secular systems.

Well there is nothing wrong with that question, that's why when i understood what you meant in the beginning i answered it. But then the thread started to become different later on, i mean it didn't remain on that subject.