Islamaphobia, bigotry, hate, and cruelty!

[Earthling]

Speaking the truth about Muhammad should be just as acceptable as speaking the truth about far-right Fascist Dictators.

We should love Muslims! Sometimes the loving thing to do is point out what is unhealthy! I'm not in any way saying we should not love Muslims. But we have to recognize where the threat is coming from at the same time! I'm only speaking against tyranny, hate, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and calls to violence! Should we defend such hate under any circumstances?

Thoughts?

Arabs are primarily Muslim, and they are Semitic.

I think you are too emotional to fairly criticize Muslims.

 

[Godobeyer]

Not to mention, Muhammad was 53 when he married a six year old

the searcher and thinker Dr Adnan Ibrahim found out by making research she was over 18.

 

[Spiderman]

Arabs are primarily Muslim, and they are Semitic.

I think you are too emotional to fairly criticize Muslims.

Of course, i was speaking of antisemetism in the context of hatred for Jews. I've heard Muslims refer to Israelis as "brothers of baboons and monkeys".

 

[Spiderman]

I'm only on a crusade to stir up love for others, respect even Polytheists and what they cherish, don't destroy their shrines like Muhammad did, don't stone adulterers or kill homosexuals, and don't cut off hands and feet as the Qur'an says to do or glorifies!

All I ask is that people love one another and respect other beliefs and traditions they cherish, unless of course, they are oppressing, torturing, and murdering others, that is when it is okay to despise their beliefs and practices.

 

[Spiderman]

What you though he did (bad stories) is doubtable had no good resources.
I would reject immediatly any hadith contradict with Quran teaching.


https://quran.com/21/107
And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.

I wish every Muslim was like you Godobeyer!

You are quite likeable!

 

[Earthling]

Of course, i was speaking of antisemetism in the context of hatred for Jews.

That's because anti-semitism is a propaganda falsehood to garner sympathy for the Zionist Israelis. Both Arabs and Jews are Semitic, and supposed enemies. The Arabs in Palestine, for example, who the Israelis have murdered and enslaved - innocent men, women and children - are as Semitic as the Jews that murdered and enslaved them. Maybe you need to look into that. Or how they all got along pretty good until the Balfour declaration was written in 1917.

I've heard Muslims refer to Israelis as "brothers of baboons and monkeys".

Did you ever wonder why?

 

[Sir Doom]

Are you trying to make me more accepting towards fascists? Or less accepting towards Muslims?

 

[Spiderman]

That's because anti-semitism is a propaganda falsehood to garner sympathy for the Zionist Israelis. Both Arabs and Jews are Semitic, and supposed enemies. The Arabs in Palestine, for example, who the Israelis have murdered and enslaved - innocent men, women and children - are as Semitic as the Jews that murdered and enslaved them. Maybe you need to look into that. Or how they all got along pretty good until the Balfour declaration was written in 1917.



Did you ever wonder why?

I don't see Israelis stoning adulterers, cutting off hands, outlawing the Qur'an, crucifying people, cutting off heads, cutting off hands, cutting off feet, or forcing women to dress like Darth Vader or be molested. They take military action against terrorist groups that launch rockets at them, and unfortunately innocent Arabs have died as a result, but Israeli laws are quite civilized compared to much of the dark-aged policies I have seen in the Islamic world, even in my lifetime.

The vicious things Muhammad wrote about and did, were so psychopathic, cruel, and brutal, I could not even have done that to my worst enemy, even at my worst years, when I was a troubled sociopathic child who was cruel to rodents! Why should I not get emotional about over a billion people treating a psychopathic sadistic cult-leader (worse than Charles Manson), like he's the greatest hero and messenger of God???

 

[Spiderman]

Are you trying to make me more accepting towards fascists? Or less accepting towards Muslims?

I don't see any evidence that Fascism is as big of a threat...Honestly, if I had to choose one, an Islamic Theocracy, or Fascist Dictatorship, Fascism as it is described in the "Doctrine of Fascism", sounds more reasonable and rational than the Qur'an.

However, I don't want you, myself, or anyone, to tolerate any forms of hatred, bigotry, or military Dictatorships! I was simply saying, there are more calls to hate, and more brutal tortures in the Qur'an than the "Doctrine of Fascism" (In fact, the most hateful thing I remember from the Doctrine of Fascism was it's zero tolerance for Communism. I don't remember calls to kill people, and there certainly were not any graphic tortures and mutilations said to be in store for non-fascists.)

 

[Spiderman]

Are you trying to make me more accepting towards fascists? Or less accepting towards Muslims?

I'm not trying to make you less accepting towards Muslims.

We should love Muslims. That doesn't mean we should be silent about the gruesome, bigoted, psychopathic content in the Qur'an and lifestyle of the violent founder!

 

[Brickjectivity]

Thoughts?

This diatribe against a religion I think is out of place on RF -- though not in general public discourse. Our goal here is to encourage friendship regardless of differences and political solutions not to fix religions or polities. If that could be done through words then the telegraph would have ended wars. So lets get back to booring old pats on back and talk about weather.

 

[Earthling]

I don't see Israelis stoning adulterers, cutting off hands, outlawing the Qur'an, crucifying people, cutting off heads, cutting off hands, cutting off feet, or forcing women to dress like Darth Vader or be molested.

Who do you think those people doing that in the Bible you criticize were? The Scandinavians?

They take military action against terrorist groups that launch rockets at them,

Firecrackers you mean. Most of them are children. Perhaps it would be more civilized to sic a mother bear on them?

and unfortunately innocent Arabs have died as a result, but Israeli laws are quite civilized compared to much of the dark-aged policies I have seen in the Islamic world, even in my lifetime.

The vicious things Muhammad wrote about and did, were so psychopathic, cruel, and brutal, I could not even have done that to my worst enemy, even at my worst years, when I was a troubled sociopathic child who was cruel to rodents! Why should I not get emotional about over a billion people treating a psychopathic sadistic cult-leader (worse than Charles Manson), like he's the greatest hero and messenger of God???

Because the same can be said of anyone, including the Christians, Jews, and modern day Zionist Israelis.

Attack the message not the messenger.

 

[Spiderman]

This diatribe against a religion I think is out of place on RF -- though not in general public discourse. Our goal here is to encourage friendship regardless of differences and political solutions not to fix religions or polities. If that could be done through words then the telegraph would have ended wars. So lets get back to booring old pats on back and talk about weather.

I understand and respect your point here, but how far should society go in remaining silent and passive about what is cruel, sadistic, brutal, and psychopathic, by modern standards?

 

[Spiderman]

Who do you think those people doing that in the Bible you criticize were? The Scandinavians?



Firecrackers you mean. Most of them are children. Perhaps it would be more civilized to sic a mother bear on them?



Because the same can be said of anyone, including the Christians, Jews, and modern day Zionist Israelis.

Attack the message not the messenger.

The same cannot be said of everyone.

I don't defend such cruelty, hate, mutilation, or torture of humans under any circumstances!

I know many Christians like me who condemn anything like that in the Bible.

If you must put me before a firing squad, i approve. Just don't mutilate, torture, or disfigure me! Okay!

 

[Earthling]

I understand and respect your point here, but how far should society go in remaining silent and passive about what is cruel, sadistic, brutal, and psychopathic, by modern standards?

As far as forgiving one another, the first step of which is the realization that they are not that different in their trespasses.

 

[Spiderman]

This diatribe against a religion I think is out of place on RF -- though not in general public discourse. Our goal here is to encourage friendship regardless of differences and political solutions not to fix religions or polities. If that could be done through words then the telegraph would have ended wars. So lets get back to booring old pats on back and talk about weather.

I'm teaching that people should love one another and not hate, mutilate, or kill others.

We should love Muslims.

However, part of loving others is to not be passive in the face of hatred, violence, torture, bigotry, tyranny, killing, and psychopathic atrocities!

 

[Spiderman]

As far as forgiving one another, the first step of which is the realization that they are not that different in their trespasses.

I could never kill people for adultery, homosexuality, or being atheist or Polytheist.

I could never approve of bullying, torturing, and mutilation of anyone.

How is the founder of Islam like me in his trespasses?

When have I ever taught it is okay to kill people (unless it is to defend oneself and one's land from tyranny...but even then I would strongly caution it)?

 

[Spiderman]

All I'm teaching is that we should love one another!

 

[Earthling]

I could never kill people for adultery, homosexuality, or being atheist or Polytheist.

I could never approve of bullying, torturing, and mutilation of anyone.

How is the founder of Islam like me in his trespasses?

When have I ever taught it is okay to kill people (unless it is to defend oneself and one's land from tyranny...but even then I would strongly caution it)?

When you protest one group for doing something while promoting another group who do the same thing as well. That's why you attack the message, not the messenger.

 

[Earthling]

All I'm teaching is that we should love one another!

No, you're teaching that we should hate Muslims and love others who commit the same crimes.