Islamic Jihad

[England my lionheart]

The European Zionists formed their terror gangs in 1922... By 1930 600,000 Jewish foreigners had immigrated to Palestine doubling the population.

Who do you consider to be "Zionist? ",Al husseini who reportedly traced his family to the grandson of Muhammed,who was also an ally of Nazi Germany and lived in Berlin as an honoured guest of Adolf Hitler and had his own so handjar regiment would just say Jew.

You say "Jewish foreigners",if you believe in religious books where was the home of the Jews?,I don't believe in religious books but I'm pretty sure they lived in Israel before the Romans renamed it Palestine.

 

[sooda]

Who do you consider to be "Zionist? ",Al husseini who reportedly traced his family to the grandson of Muhammed,who was also an ally of Nazi Germany and lived in Berlin as an honoured guest of Adolf Hitler and had his own so handjar regiment would just say Jew.

You say "Jewish foreigners",if you believe in religious books where was the home of the Jews?,I don't believe in religious books but I'm pretty sure they lived in Israel before the Romans renamed it Palestine.

It was Palestine by 500 BC according to the Greek historian Herodotus. Didn't they teach you anything in school?

 

[England my lionheart]

It was Palestine by 500 BC according to the Greek historian Herodotus. Didn't they teach you anything in school?

All the way to university,I know you want it to be anything but Israel but it's still there which Imo is a good thing.

 

[sooda]

Husseini's appointment as mufti was itself the subject of much controversy. The decision to grant al-Husseini the position was made by Herbert Samuel, the first high commissioner of Palestine. It was odd that Samuel, a British Jew, would appoint a man who would be responsible for so much unrest within the Mandatory area. Al-Husseini in fact had been sentenced to ten years in prison by the British for inciting riots in 1920.

None of that sentence was served, as al-Husseini had fled to Transjordan, and was soon after amnestied by Samuel himself.

For his part, al-Husseini had used his influence to quiet additional disturbances in 1921. He assured Samuel that he would continue to maintain order, and it was with this understanding that the high commissioner granted him the position of mufti. In the following year, he was also appointed to lead the Supreme Muslim Council, expanding his already significant powers. Known later as the Grand Mufti, al-Husseini was able to establish himself as the preeminent Arab power in Palestine.

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Haj Amin al-Husseini

 

[sooda]

All the way to university,I know you want it to be anything but Israel but it's still there which Imo is a good thing.

No.. but the Israelis could stop killing people and taking more land.

 

[England my lionheart]

Husseini's appointment as mufti was itself the subject of much controversy. The decision to grant al-Husseini the position was made by Herbert Samuel, the first high commissioner of Palestine. It was odd that Samuel, a British Jew, would appoint a man who would be responsible for so much unrest within the Mandatory area. Al-Husseini in fact had been sentenced to ten years in prison by the British for inciting riots in 1920.

None of that sentence was served, as al-Husseini had fled to Transjordan, and was soon after amnestied by Samuel himself.

For his part, al-Husseini had used his influence to quiet additional disturbances in 1921. He assured Samuel that he would continue to maintain order, and it was with this understanding that the high commissioner granted him the position of mufti. In the following year, he was also appointed to lead the Supreme Muslim Council, expanding his already significant powers. Known later as the Grand Mufti, al-Husseini was able to establish himself as the preeminent Arab power in Palestine.

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Haj Amin al-Husseini

I know about him,the British government could have prevented him doing anything,bad move by them,it could also have prevented Al banna and the mb sending people from Egypt to attack israelis.

 

[England my lionheart]

No.. but the Israelis could stop killing people and taking more land.

Absolutely,they could if they weren't being attacked,there would be no reason or excuse but they are attacked .

 

[sooda]

Absolutely,they could if they weren't being attacked,there would be no reason or excuse but they are attacked .

No, Israel Wasn’t Fighting for Its Existence in 1967 | War ...
https://warisboring.com/no-israel-wasnt-fighting-for-its-existence...
According to the Israelis, the April 1967 air battle followed a long series of Syrian provocations. But years later, Moshe Dayan — the Israeli defense minister at the time — explained that at least 80 percent of the clashes between Israel and Syria in the 1960s were actually provoked by Israel, bowing to pressure from settlers hoping to occupy the Golan.

 

[England my lionheart]

No, Israel Wasn’t Fighting for Its Existence in 1967 | War ...
https://warisboring.com/no-israel-wasnt-fighting-for-its-existence...
According to the Israelis, the April 1967 air battle followed a long series of Syrian provocations. But years later, Moshe Dayan — the Israeli defense minister at the time — explained that at least 80 percent of the clashes between Israel and Syria in the 1960s were actually provoked by Israel, bowing to pressure from settlers hoping to occupy the Golan.[/QUOTE

I'm going to cut you some slack,let's give you that one,I don't agree but how many wars have Israel won?.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Not all Muslims agree with what terrorists,and most of victimes of terrorism were/are actualty Muslims.

So?

What does that have to do with the word "jihad" being islamist jargon for their religious war?

 

[Shad]

The UK pays pakistan millions,I can't think of any country that would give it willingly to a country that harbours the Taliban and human rights record is a travesty.

The US did it too

 

[Godobeyer]

So?

What does that have to do with the word "jihad" being islamist jargon for their religious war?

This bbc topic gave bit good explaination.

BBC - Religions - Islam: Jihad

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

This bbc topic gave bit good explaination.

BBC - Religions - Islam: Jihad

I'm well aware of what Jihad means.
This does not answer my question.

What does it have to do with the fact that the word "jihad" is literally the islamic jargon used by islamist to refer to their holy war?

Which, as your BBC link literally also says, is ALSO one of the meanings of that word?

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Israel is fine. They were given land to have their own country and they have been getting financial assistance for 71 years.

"Given land"?

On the contrary. Jewish people had to fight for their own country since before it even came into being. Jewish communities were under regular attacks from Arab militias in the years leading up to Israel's inception. Then their Arab neighbours invaded them and lost.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

The European Zionists formed their terror gangs in 1922... By 1930 600,000 Jewish foreigners had immigrated to Palestine doubling the population.

But that was to resist colonialism. Isn't resisting colonialism a good thing; or is that only when Muslims do it?

 

[sooda]

But that was to resist colonialism. Isn't resisting colonialism a good thing; or is that only when Muslims do it?

The European Zionists hadn't lived in Palestine for 2000 years. What are you talking about?

 

[sooda]

"Given land"?

On the contrary. Jewish people had to fight for their own country since before it even came into being. Jewish communities were under regular attacks from Arab militias in the years leading up to Israel's inception. Then their Arab neighbours invaded them and lost.

Yes, they were given land. Arabs fought with the British to drive out the Ottomans. Jews did not.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Yes, they were given land. Arabs fought with the British to drive out the Ottomans. Jews did not.

Whether or not they fought to drive the Ottomans out does not change the fact the Jews in the Levant had to fight for their continued survival from before Israel's foundation. Israel was born during conflict because the Arabs didn't want to live in a Jewish state and wouldn't move to any one of the myriad Arab-majority countries surrounding them.

The idea that they were given land is laughable. It's also revising history to make the Arabs seem not so bad. A two-state solution was drawn up prior to Israel's foundation which the Arabs rejected. They wanted yet another Arab state for themselves and heaven forfend the Jews should ever have a country of their own.

The European Zionists hadn't lived in Palestine for 2000 years. What are you talking about?

So? Once they moved there they were living under British colonialism. Colonialism is bad and should be resisted, right?

 

[sooda]

Whether or not they fought to drive the Ottomans out does not change the fact the Jews in the Levant had to fight for their continued survival from before Israel's foundation.

Israel was born during conflict because the Arabs didn't want to live in a Jewish state and wouldn't move to any one of the myriad Arab-majority countries surrounding them.

The idea that they were given land is laughable. It's also revising history to make the Arabs seem not so bad. A two-state solution was drawn up prior to Israel's foundation which the Arabs rejected. They wanted yet another Arab state for themselves and heaven forfend the Jews should ever have a country of their own.

So? Once they moved there they were living under British colonialism. Colonialism is bad and should be resisted, right?

You want foreigners to take your land and your home and suggest you move to another country??? Are you nuts?

Your terror gangs killed over 500 British peacekeeper who got in your way.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

You want foreigners to take your land and your home and suggest you move to another country??? Are you nuts?

You mean like the Arabs did in Iraq, Egypt, Algeria, Kuwait and other countries where they stole Jewish peoples' property and drove them out? These Jews have yet to see a penny in recompense for this but nobody talks about it. Nobody who cares about the plight of the 'Palestinians' cares about the fact Middle Eastern Jews literally had their livelihoods stolen from them for the crime of being Jewish.

Below is a short video, just less than 4 minutes long about an NGO at the UN asking this very question of numerous states who accuse Israel of apartheid.

You'll like the first 45 seconds or so of the video as it's just bashing Israel and accusing it of apartheid.

What's interesting is none of the Arab states this guy challenges are able to respond to the question; they can only delay Mr Neuer asking it with a point of order saying they don't like what he is saying. They know the answers to the questions but they can't admit it without their entire argument falling apart.

Your terror gangs killed over 500 British peacekeeper who got in your way.

Sorry, whose terror gangs? Do you think I'm Jewish?

The attack on the King David Hotel was an atrocious act of terrorism, and I condemn it unequivocally (just in case that isn't clear).