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Israel charging money to demolsih Bedouin homes

JacobEzra.

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
Tamar said:
Heaven forbid...... 8 Israelis dead, 25 wounded and 100+ rockets sent from Gaza......

Its horrible....

But lets do some Israel bashing because as you know the folks who killed all those Israelis and are sending rockets into Israel are just innocent...
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It seems common for Israeli government to take its justice not on the ones who actually do the harm, but on innocent people.

So rockets are sent from Gaza. Its sad and not a way to peace. But does not justify the punishment on innocents.

Neither side seems to want peace.
 
JacobEzra.

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
Alceste said:
Wow. The Israeli gov't is such a bully - and a hypocrite, too. It's not as if they give a toss about who has legal title to what when they build settlements in the occupied territories... If Hamas were to bulldoze a few of those and send Israel a bill, you think Netanyahu would pay it?
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I think bibi would throw a hissy fit.
 
Shermana

Shermana

Heretic
JacobEzra said:
It seems common for Israeli government to take its justice not on the ones who actually do the harm, but on innocent people.

So rockets are sent from Gaza. Its sad and not a way to peace. But does not justify the punishment on innocents.

Neither side seems to want peace.
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So you're saying the Israeli army does not fire at any specific targets which they think the fire is coming from or militant strongholds, but they specifically target innocents on purpose, I see.

Israel probably doesn't want peace at this point because "peace" to the Palestinians is only a standby period to build up. Israel's best strategy may be to call them out to fight once and for all.
 
elmarna

elmarna

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So both sides go on pointing fingers! Because you are both claiming the same thing!
Is it a push & shove or a ******* match.
Is all the suffering & worry worth it?
PEACE IS THE ONLY SALVATION!!!!!!!!!!!
 
JacobEzra.

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
Shermana said:
So you're saying the Israeli army does not fire at any specific targets which they think the fire is coming from or militant strongholds, but they specifically target innocents on purpose, I see.
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I see you are putting words in my mouth.

Shermana said:
Israel probably doesn't want peace at this point because "peace" to the Palestinians is only a standby period to build up. Israel's best strategy may be to call them out to fight once and for all.
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How do you know the Palestinians do not want peace?

I can tell you are right though. Israeli government does not want peace. They do not even want to cooperate. Peace is not a one way road.
 
Bismillah

Bismillah

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How do you know the Palestinians do not want peace?
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He doesn't! Abbas still is committed to a non-violent resolution while Israel colonizes the rest of the West Bank. But like he said "Isarel doesn't want peace" it wants land. Palestinian land and Bedouin land!
 
Shermana

Shermana

Heretic
Bismillah said:
He doesn't! Abbas still is committed to a non-violent resolution while Israel colonizes the rest of the West Bank. But like he said "Isarel doesn't want peace" it wants land. Palestinian land and Bedouin land!
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The PA is only committed to a non-violent solution at this point because they feel they are in a weak position. 10 years ago this was not the case. Gaza is a perfect example of what will happen if Israel gives up land.

As it stands, traveling throughout Judea-Samaria is still dangerous, there's a reason why the separation wall has halted almost all terrorist attacks.

Do the Iraqis plan on giving up Kurdistan to the Kurds? No. The Arabs are not exactly innocent when it comes to "taking land" are they?

How about some of the $300 billion (modern) the Arab countries confiscated from Jewish owned property in 1948?
 
JacobEzra.

JacobEzra.

Dr. Greenthumb
Shermana said:
The PA is only committed to a non-violent solution at this point because they feel they are in a weak position. 10 years ago this was not the case. Gaza is a perfect example of what will happen if Israel gives up land.

As it stands, traveling throughout Judea-Samaria is still dangerous, there's a reason why the separation wall has halted almost all terrorist attacks.

Do the Iraqis plan on giving up Kurdistan to the Kurds? No. The Arabs are not exactly innocent when it comes to "taking land" are they?

How about some of the $300 billion (modern) the Arab countries confiscated from Jewish owned property in 1948?
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Its dangerous to walk through Gaza if you are a zionist, yeah. But when teh Pope visited, he had no trouble :rolleyes:
 
Shermana

Shermana

Heretic
JacobEzra said:
It truly is a shame :(
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The shame is that no one complains about Jordan sitting on 80% of Palestine. You could fit 50 Judea Samarias in Jordan, and they are sparsely populated. The fact that no one demands Jordan give up any land (or rename itself to Palestine as it should) shows pure racism and bias in world opinion, or utter fear of the Arabs.
 
Shermana

Shermana

Heretic
JacobEzra said:
Its a shame that you think its okay to treat Arabs poorly. Everyone has right to live there. But Zionist want the land all to themselves.
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So you agree that Jordan shouldn't have to do anything about it and it's all israel's responsibility.

How about Arabs want all the Land to themselves and are hoping the world totally ignores they own 80% of Palestine. People like yourself a prime example, since you don't even seem to be interested in the concept that Jordan is sitting on Palestinian land yet you wouldn't wave any finger at them.

The fact that people don't care that they already have 80% of what they want and no one is pressuring Jordan to become Palestine is pure willful ignorance and racism as if the Jordanians shouldn't have to do anything about the problem.

Also, Israeli-citizen Arabs have some of the best lives among Arabs.
 
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Bismillah

Bismillah

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The PA is only committed to a non-violent solution at this point because they feel they are in a weak position.
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First of all you mean the PLO at this point in time the PA includes Hamas however you are right the PA is committed to a non-violent solution. Because Abbas controls all foreign policy, which is non-violent, and Hamas agreed to the agreement. Second the PLO is not "weak" it enjoys far greater support and recognition around the world now then it did back when it was still employing armed resistance.

Israel however holds all the cards and they are firmly against peace.
 
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