Israel Declares War After Hamas Attacks

[Lyndon]

What's particularly outrageous is the media even our government keeps calling it an unprovoked attack by Hamas, after years of provication by the Israelis

 

[Father Heathen]

Since you find it a fancy to tag me I thought I would return the favor.
@Father Heathen there are civilians and kids being killed here in this newest war. Where is your outrage?

I'm not on RF 24/7, kid. The attacks upon civilians were obviously abhorrent and inexcusable. There's no excuse or justification for such actions. Hopefully Hamas gets what's coming to them.

Thought you had a "gotcha", didn't you. Why on earth would I denounce Russia's terrorism yet abide Hamas' terrorism? I'm a man who values morality, honor, and justice.

You might find this interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine–Russia_relations

 

[We Never Know]

I'm not on RF 24/7, kid. The attacks upon civilians were obviously abhorrent and inexcusable. There's no excuse or justification for such actions. Hopefully Hamas gets what's coming to them.

Thought you had a "gotcha", didn't you. Why on earth would I denounce Russia's terrorism yet abide Hamas' terrorism? I'm a man who values morality, honor, and justice.

You might find this interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine–Russia_relations

No gotcha. Just thought I would bring it to your attention since you seemed to have missed it when you have been on today

 

[We Never Know]

I'm not on RF 24/7, kid. The attacks upon civilians were obviously abhorrent and inexcusable. There's no excuse or justification for such actions. Hopefully Hamas gets what's coming to them.

Thought you had a "gotcha", didn't you. Why on earth would I denounce Russia's terrorism yet abide Hamas' terrorism? I'm a man who values morality, honor, and justice.

You might find this interesting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine–Russia_relations

You might find this interesting...

Russia Blames US for Israel Attacks: 'Idiots'​

"The biggest attack on Israel by Palestinian militants in years was caused by U.S. foreign policy failures, the former President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev has said, as Russian social-media users celebrated the outbreak of violence."

Russia blames US for Israel attacks: "Idiots"

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the U.S. had been fomenting conflict in the region and around the world.

www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Father Heathen]

No gotcha. Just thought I would bring it to your attention since you seemed to have missed it when you have been on today

Damn. I must've had you really riled up if you were monitoring my activity so closely.

 

[We Never Know]

Damn. I must've had you really riled up if you were monitoring my activity so closely.

Lmao. Don't pat yourself on the back. The latest activity page gives us away every time. Its where I go to every time I come on. Saw you on it a few times today.
Thought you had a "gotcha", didn't you?

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[Father Heathen]

You might find this interesting...

Russia Blames US for Israel Attacks: 'Idiots'​

"The biggest attack on Israel by Palestinian militants in years was caused by U.S. foreign policy failures, the former President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev has said, as Russian social-media users celebrated the outbreak of violence."

Russia blames US for Israel attacks: "Idiots"

Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said the U.S. had been fomenting conflict in the region and around the world.

www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org

According to that article, "Russian social-media users celebrated the outbreak of violence", "Russian bloggers on Telegram expressed support for the attacks in Israel", "'not a drop of pity or sympathy' for Israelis", Odd. It appears many Russians aren't fond of Israel. I also gather from the article that he seems to be suggesting that because we've been assisting Ukraine, that somehow caused an intelligence failure on our part that allowed for Hamas' surprise attack to occur? Do you buy that? Do you consider it a solid theory from a solid source?

As for the Israeli and the Palestinian forces themselves, both have a long history of spilling innocent blood, so I've never looked at their conflict through a black and white "good guy vs. bad guy" lens.

 

[sun rise]

China gets a lot of its energy from the Middle East. If they attack Taiwan and turn the South China Sea into a war zone, insurance companies will raise rates on any cargo ship sailing there to astronomical rates, making it unprofitable for those ships to sail. Other commodities that China imports or exports by sea would also be affected by the rate hikes.

I I'll bet the farm that Taiwan is studying the Russian-Ukraine war very very closely and getting prepared.

 

[Left Coast]

Insightful commentary and historical context here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/10/07/gaza-israel-war-hamas-destruction/

 

[Shadow Wolf]

After Hamas, the Islamist group that leads Palestine

Gaza Strip but not the West Bank. Amd they probably only still control that because they did away with elections abiut 20 years ago.

May Hamas be quickly defeated and the region be at peace soon.

It can be said of Israel's own agressions and provocations. Neither state is innocent, but innocent civilians pay the price.

 

[Left Coast]

What's particularly outrageous is the media even our government keeps calling it an unprovoked attack by Hamas, after years of provication by the Israelis

Oh what nonsense. Israel didn't "have this coming." Hamas is a terrorist group that doesn't believe Israel has a right to exist and want to replace it with an Islamist state. That's the reason they attacked. Israel's existence "provokes" them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The number of people calling what Hamas did today "resistance" is depressing.

Blockades, embargos, occupation of the West Bank and their own aggressions do add some weight to that claim.

Hindus and Muslims slaughtered each other during the India/Pakistan partition and Hindus are not Abrahamic. There have been Buddhist fanatics killing people for goodness sake and how crazy is that given what the Buddha taught. The problem is hatred and fanaticism.

That's because Buddhism doesn't teach it. But Abrahamic texts do in many places, so much so even Jesus turned violent in one scene.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh what nonsense. Israel didn't "have this coming." Hamas is a terrorist group that doesn't believe Israel has a right to exist and want to replace it with an Islamist state. That's the reason they attacked. Israel's existence "provokes" them.

Not the blockades amd embargos? Not their own acts of violence? Nit the occupations widely decried as illegal?
They both deserve eachother.

 

[Left Coast]

Gaza Strip but not the West Bank.

Yes, I should have been more specific.

It can be said of Israel's own agressions and provocations. Neither state is innocent, but innocent civilians pay the price.

It can be said that Israel should be defeated? Yikes. No.

 

[Bthoth]

The number of people calling what Hamas did today "resistance" is depressing.

Do you live within the concentration camp gaza? Have you ever had your homes and land taken from you because settlers expect you to leave?

 

[Bthoth]

What's particularly outrageous is the media even our government keeps calling it an unprovoked attack by Hamas, after years of provication by the Israelis

Most do not see Human Rights Watch dot org news.

Israeli authorities are committing the crimes against humanity of apartheid and persecution against millions of Palestine

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It can be said that Israel should be defeated? Yikes. No.

I meant their own acts if aggression and hostilities against the Palestinians in both the Gaza Strip and West Bank have been adding fuel to the fire just as Hamas does.
It would probably be best to quarantine the leaders and officials of both states on a remote island so they kill eachother off while the civilians get to live in peace.

 

[We Never Know]

I I'll bet the farm that Taiwan is studying the Russian-Ukraine war very very closely and getting prepared.

I don't know if I would bet the farm but I would bet a couple cows Taiwan is getting nervous thinking the US is our protector and now the US will be getting stretched by Ukraine and Israel.

 

[Left Coast]

Not the blockades amd embargos?

Blockades and embargos warrant mass attacks on civilian targets? No.

Nit the occupations widely decried as illegal?

Blocking of exports doesn't justify flagrant mass murder of innocents.

Folks: Hamas wants to destroy Israel because that is its ideological commitment. It is an Islamist terrorist group. That is the reason for its animosity towards Israel.

They both deserve eachother.

False equivalence between a democratic state and a terrorist group won't go very far.

You're a trans woman. You're telling me you have no preference whether you'd live under Hamas' rule or in Israel? Again, yikes. As a gay man I can tell you where I'd live.

Has Israel done things that are wrong as well? Yes it has. Does this make it a morally equivalent actor to a terrorist group that doesn't think Jews have a right to a homeland at all? Not even slightly close.

 

[Bthoth]

Blockades and embargos warrant mass attacks on civilian targets? No.

Israeli authorities are committing the crimes against humanity of apartheid and persecution against millions of Palestinians.

but you're ok with that, right.

Now the nutlessyahoo will shut off electricity, fuel and medical supplies getting into gaza. Let alone the buildings they just leveled, killing civilians living there.

Blocking of exports doesn't justify flagrant mass murder of innocents.

Agreed but gaza has no real export business, nor a real military. Most of the hamas are orphans from the last half century of oppression