all good answers !
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Israeli Duty to Warn? What unmitigated gall (chutzpah)
- Thread starter jbg
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We Never Know
No Slack
"USA is sending ammo to Israel to enhance the slaughter".....
...."to cause continued hostility, destruction, & death"
Same thing they did for Ukraine.
That isn't true. And even if it were it would not be unique. So that is not the reason. Yet the State of Israel is unique in one way. It is the only state of Jews. That is the actual reason.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
It's true because of the Balfour Declaration, David Ben-Gurion's declaration, and the fact that before then Palestine was populated by a religiously diverse group of people.
Then it should be called Jewland or some such. The actual people of of the house of Israel lost their identity during the diaspora.
The Jewish nation was not created by the Balfour Declaration nor the Proclamation of the Creation of the State of Israel (not "David Be-Gurion's declaration"[sic]). It existed before those things. Palestine has always had Jewish inhabitants. Even when most Jews didn't live there, there were always some Jews living there and their claim to the land was never relinquished nor abrogated. The State of Israel is both a homeland for Jews and also others that want to share a state with them. So it shouldn't be called "Jewland"[sic]. The State of Israel is the right name.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
You're conflating the historical house of Judah with the Herzl's Jewish state. Modern Ashkenazi Jews were not of that historical house because they were not a semitic people.
You would do better than Netanyahu, a populist right wing who has been trying to alter the courts etc so that he can stay in power and out of jail.
And anybody can be better than the Hamas leader, whoever he is.
No, I'm not. Ashkenazi Jews are completely Jewish. Notwithstanding anti-Jewish propaganda. Not that it makes any difference with regard to the State of Israel since most of the Jews in the State of Israel aren't Ashkenazi. Most are Sepharidic, Mizrahi or Sabras. But Jews haters don't care about facts anyways.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
Yes, you are. Herzl's state has no theistic basis, but the house of Judah does because of the Mosaic covenant.
I have never written otherwise.
McBell
Unbound
Nope.
Trump lost the popular vote big time in both elections.
Ebionite
Well-Known Member
That's not the point. I was talking about today's Israel and you brought up the historical house of Israel, which is not the same thing, hence the conflation.
Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
By our rules we did. I would have loved to have thrown him out when he did not get anywhere near the lead in the popular vote, but until we fix our electoral college fiasco we are stuck with it.
McBell
Unbound
He was not elected by the people.
He was appointed by the electoral college.
Yes he was duly elected.
But only because of the fiasco you mention
Just like reckless might be used for Hamas, in not anticipating what might happen to the Palestinian population.
Oh, I'm quite certain Hamas easily anticipated what might happen, but they've shown time and again that they're really not much interested in the Palestinian people.
The business of war. The companies make money at our tax expense and the folk of israel/palestine have lost their minds to hatred willing to use the weapons to kill each other.
What is sick is to realize and find out what the root problem is.
I have been watching it for too long.
yes.................. it's not as if the palestinian chose to live within concentration camp gaza but also loose palestine to morons that expect to return to animal sacrificing on a mount that has no temple on it.
PureX
Veteran Member
They knew exactly what would happen. Just as they know that the ultra-violent Israeli response will bring them far more followers and supporters. Every time the Israelis kill a Palastinian non-combatant, which they do all the time, and are doing now in great numbers, they create several hardened militant Hamas supporters, ready, now, to die in their quest for retribution.
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So why are the Palestinians complaining?