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It’s official: Democrat Conor Lamb wins Pennsylvania special election in major upset
- Thread starter Quetzal
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We've revoked all leave for our entire army, and all six of them are currently sharpening their sticks, just in case you think Australia is a tempting target.
I heard they were going to redistrict so the election itself didn't matter much. Though I suppose bragging rights. Who know what is going to influence the herd in the next elections. Something as small as what would normally be an inconsequential election.
socharlie
Active Member
It is not a bad news: it is exactly what they wanted.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
No it isn't. They're trying to blow it off. Lamb is not conservative. He's a moderate leftist like Tim Kaine. Ryan has to play it off because the GOP is already unstable and it's direction as a party unclear. All the recent retirements show how deep party contentions go.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
A Democratic win isn't so unusual in Pennsylvania, but ever since Trump won here, which was by a very thin margin I might add- Republicans have been playing it up like we're some kind of red state. That's hardly the case.
Pennsylvania politics have always been a mixed bag. I'll grant you, Lamb's win in that particular district is impressive.
However, the GOP is being over-confident. That could cost them big time. The only reason Trump won this state by the hair that he did is because his economic populism appealed to PA voters.
Jobs are one of the biggest issues for Pennsylvanians since the end of the coal industry meant our state economy pretty well tanked.
Trump was able to convince some people that he'd be able to bring jobs back. I suspect his performance in office won't get him a second win here. He barely got the first one.
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Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I ask again, what does this have to do with party affiliation? A lot of people who claimed to be "patriots" have voted for candidates who've opposed rights, freedoms, and equality; i.e. the very values that this nation was founded upon, and some self proclaimed "patriots" have even supported theocratic candidates even though religious tyranny is the antithesis of this nations founding, so the notion doesn't really mean ****, now does it?
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
Lamb is pro-choice, though he does emphasize personally being anti-abortion. I think at least, Democrats need to quit playing abortion off as a casual subject. That makes Christian voters feel we don't consider the serious aspect of it.
I think it really could be as simple as that. Christian voters want to hear that we're not casual in supporting abortion. Unfortunately, the GOP plays up to them like we are.
I am very much a liberal, but I oppose casual abortion. I suspect more liberals than people realize do. It is simply a matter of women's rights for us, and that even anti-abortion (casual abortion) Democrats like me realize at the end of the day that the choice is hard to separate from female rights.
socharlie
Active Member
Just a show, imo. They can not not bare majority. It requires changes. Nobody wants changed. Two parties are the same.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
Saying the two parties are the same is, forgive me- beyond laughable.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
So what is the Democrats plan for Pennsylvania's New Renaissance the likes of what never had been seen before?
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
I suppose that remains to be seen doesn't it? I will admit that Lamb is not the change many people want in the party. He wasn't in my district, so I can only guess why he may have won.
Curious George
Veteran Member
What I find interesting about this win is the contrast with the results and the amount of money spent.
socharlie
Active Member
anything changed lately? wars? Strictly Machiavelli. They perform, people fight. Divide and concur.
Buddha Dharma
Dharma Practitioner
I think that's a leap on your part, given they agree on almost nothing.
socharlie
Active Member
why do they do the same?
It’s the money Leboswky!
Both parties have the same donors, and that is who they work for.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You gotta be kidding. Does this administration really feel the same as with the previous administration?
tytlyf
Not Religious
Exactly. You won't hear democrats ever make the comment that the parties are the same. It only comes from disgruntled conservatives to make themselves feel better about supporting corporate policies over middle class policies.
Remember, the conservative base gets their information from questionable outlets. They are taught that democrats hate America, hate freedom, hate rights, hate the constitution, love illegal immigration, hate free markets, etc.
All lies, but they believe it.
socharlie
Active Member
they have the same boss - banking - military industrial - pharma complex, they are disuniting nations in stupid arguments ...this administration is reverse side of previous. 50% of people hated Obama and the other 50 liked him, now it has reversed, it is so obvious what they are doing.
socharlie
Active Member
it is control, they have money presses,