Of course!
It's just that we haven't invited you to it yet.
(Staff still are miffed about your bringing a
dingo to the nursery show & tell.)
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It is done, I think i've found it
- Thread starter Segev Moran
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It's just that we haven't invited you to it yet.
(Staff still are miffed about your bringing a
dingo to the nursery show & tell.)
I disagree.
I live in a very skeptic environment
My family is skeptic, my work place is skeptical in way of thinking and myself is skeptical in the way of thought.
Yet, here you are. While you disagree, the results still support my theory.
Good luck
Thanks.
Oh, I rarely wait for invites. I just show up. For some reason my invite commonly gets lost in the mail.
As for dingos...much like humans it's only the atheist ones who eat babies.
Beth Stitely
Member
Reading your post Segev...that is so cool!
I'm endeavoring to read a book by a Jewish author called "The Lonely Man of Faith". Haven't delved into it yet but it looks intriguing.
I'm truly happy for you! You seem very happy too
I'd be interested to hear how your journey progresses
I'm endeavoring to read a book by a Jewish author called "The Lonely Man of Faith". Haven't delved into it yet but it looks intriguing.
I'm truly happy for you! You seem very happy too
I'd be interested to hear how your journey progresses
I am a very logical person.
I'm skeptical in thought and I love studying about the different religious and myth of different cultures.
I've been an atheist for several years, but only recently I've discovered I am really not (???)
It feels like "Coming out", but feels right to write this.
From being someone who honestly did not believe a god exists, today my thought are much different.
I've been studying the Jewish religion for some time now. I am Jewish, so no surprise I was drawn to the Jewish beliefs.
I must say that I was "blind" in a way to the things i am finally beginning to understand.
There are tons of things i can't yet accept in the Jewish religion, but the more i learn, the clearer it gets.
So there, its out. I really do believe there is a god! after a long process of internal "war", i have come to the point that everything starts to come into place.
I am not a religious person (yet?), and it seems very far from me, but no matter how i turn things, there are answer in the Jewish knowledge.
I find answers, and answers keep popping to me.
the one thing that really makes my mind twirl, is the fact that it is "too" obvious that out of all the Jewish knowledge strikes me with its accurate description of reality and much too often to be a "lucky shot", the Jewish texts describe many things we only today starting to realize as a human specie.
Don't get me wrong, I still think religion is very very dangerous. I think religion MUST be supervised and criticized and i still can't accept answers that are enigmatic.
So, anyways... there. I'm out
My fellow atheists are welcome to share their thoughts (I would actually love that, i think it will make me study things in a much more down to earth way)
Cheers
I don't know what you have found but it sounds exciting. Judaism is a truly amazing religion.
If we read the Tanakh we can show that Judaism has been put under a Curse by the Lord; thus claiming logic means paying attention to all details.
Hosea 5:15 I will go and return to my place, until they acknowledge their offense, and seek my face. In their affliction they will seek me earnestly.”
Hosea 5:5-6 The pride of Israel testifies to his face. Therefore Israel and Ephraim will stumble in their iniquity. Judah also will stumble with them. (6) They will go with their flocks and with their herds to seek Yahweh; but they won’t find him. He has withdrawn himself from them.
Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Because you have rejected knowledge, I will also reject you, that you may be no priest to me. Because you have forgotten your God’s law, I will also forget your children.
Isaiah 43:28 Therefore I will profane the princes of the sanctuary; and I will make Jacob a curse, and Israel an insult.”
Isaiah 65:15 You will leave your name for a curse to my chosen; and the Lord Yahweh will kill you. He will call his servants by another name,
Zechariah 8:13 It shall come to pass that, as you were a curse among the nations, house of Judah and house of Israel, so I will save you, and you shall be a blessing. Don’t be afraid. Let your hands be strong.”
Jeremiah 25:18 Jerusalem, and the cities of Judah, with its kings and its princes, to make them a desolation, an astonishment, a hissing, and a curse, as it is today;
Thus whilst I'm glad you've started on the road to understanding God; individual religions are only the stepping stones to finding it on the other side.
In my opinion.
I've never been invited either.
Audie
Veteran Member
I am a very logical person.
I'm skeptical in thought and I love studying about the different religious and myth of different cultures.
I've been an atheist for several years, but only recently I've discovered I am really not (???)
It feels like "Coming out", but feels right to write this.
From being someone who honestly did not believe a god exists, today my thought are much different.
I've been studying the Jewish religion for some time now. I am Jewish, so no surprise I was drawn to the Jewish beliefs.
I must say that I was "blind" in a way to the things i am finally beginning to understand.
There are tons of things i can't yet accept in the Jewish religion, but the more i learn, the clearer it gets.
So there, its out. I really do believe there is a god! after a long process of internal "war", i have come to the point that everything starts to come into place.
I am not a religious person (yet?), and it seems very far from me, but no matter how i turn things, there are answer in the Jewish knowledge.
I find answers, and answers keep popping to me.
the one thing that really makes my mind twirl, is the fact that it is "too" obvious that out of all the Jewish knowledge strikes me with its accurate description of reality and much too often to be a "lucky shot", the Jewish texts describe many things we only today starting to realize as a human specie.
Don't get me wrong, I still think religion is very very dangerous. I think religion MUST be supervised and criticized and i still can't accept answers that are enigmatic.
So, anyways... there. I'm out
My fellow atheists are welcome to share their thoughts (I would actually love that, i think it will make me study things in a much more down to earth way)
Cheers
Hmm.
I kinda dont think you were ever actually an atheist.
See "coming out" among other reasons.
And
I think your choice is an emotional one, not a logical one.
joe1776
Well-Known Member
Booooooooooo!
nPeace
Veteran Member
It was a chain of events and decisions that lead me to have the understanding i am having now.
It was only recently that things really started to just "pop out".
It was like everything i've learned the past few months and years suddenly "combined" to make sense
Its kind of hard to explain, and that actually drives me nuts i have to say
So good to see you included common sense in your search for answers. Keep thinking for yourself, and not letting others think for you.That's the best way to come to a reasonable and logical conclusion on anything.
(Ephesians 4:14) . . .we should no longer be children, tossed about as by waves and carried here and there by every wind of teaching by means of the trickery of men, by means of cunning in deceptive schemes.
Thanks for sharing the good news imo.
stvdv
Veteran Member
Some time back you replied in length to my reply and I thought "He seems more theist than atheist to me"
I'm skeptical in thought.
Try to stop thinking might give an experience, is my experience. You probably did, hence the change.
But God is a mystery. So probably that's for us all every day again "I think I have found it"
When thought stops then "It is done"
Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
What do you mean "God nature"?
Spiderman
Veteran Member
That's great that you being a "Christian" can appreciate and encourage a Jew, and enjoy Jewish authors.Reading your post Segev...that is so cool!
I'm endeavoring to read a book by a Jewish author called "The Lonely Man of Faith". Haven't delved into it yet but it looks intriguing.
I'm truly happy for you! You seem very happy too
I'd be interested to hear how your journey progresses
I like Victor Frankl and Franz Werfel. It's weird, Franz Werfel was a Jew, yet he believed "Our Lady of Lourdes" the Virgin Mary, protected him from the Nazis, so he wrote "the song of Bernadette", about the Marian apparitions and miracles at Lourdes France, and it became a best-seller, popular movie, and great hit!
Jews really make some amazing contributions to society and win lots of nobel peace prizes as well!
Explain to me how you want me to explain it.
Suddenly I am sounding to you as confused. I know that and I know why. You don't know that. So to explain I almost start sounding like I am talking in riddles which all the previous should feel like to you or at least obscure and odd. I know that.
To put it another way possibly more clearly visualize this form of writing as mechanical metronome. It runs at 60 beats a minute metered precisely. We can play along and communicate in that even in debate as long as it is precisely 60 beats per minute. What I have alluded to God nature is the metronome isn't real or fundemental. In a sense Einstein articulated this. The mechanical clock is relative subjective. There is another form of time and it is felt first written second. That's called kairos. I disregard theologians on that topic as any sane person should. They have no clue they are art critics not artists or very very rarely are artists on extremely rare occasions.
In the Catholic tradition they have a term its called "the sacred heart." 60 beats perminute is nearly exact to the human heart beat it can be felt first independent of a metronome. In that state God/nature is not a mechanically metered separate terms but a single note of notes as one. Religion tends to be mostly modern intellectualizing and some tiny accidental awareness maybe about this term sacred heart.
From just a simple evolution ary perspective heart is way way older than brain. And life can exist without both but that life only goes by kairos or feel.
All the above wierdly obscure I am most certain. But that's because of the question.
Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
based on what?
Segev Moran
Well-Known Member
Lol. ExactlySome time back you replied in length to my reply and I thought "He seems more theist than atheist to me"
I'm skeptical in thought.
Try to stop thinking might give an experience, is my experience. You probably did, hence the change.
But God is a mystery. So probably that's for us all every day again "I think I have found it"
When thought stops then "It is done"
Audie
Veteran Member
Work on it a bit if you wish. If you really have no idea/
I am mistaken, same place, tomorrow.
Congratulations on finding God
Beth Stitely
Member
That's great that you being a "Christian" can appreciate and encourage a Jew, and enjoy Jewish authors.
I like Victor Frankl and Franz Werfel. It's weird, Franz Werfel was a Jew, yet he believed "Our Lady of Lourdes" the Virgin Mary, protected him from the Nazis, so he wrote "the song of Bernadette", about the Marian apparitions and miracles at Lourdes France, and it became a best-seller, popular movie, and great hit!
Jews really make some amazing contributions to society and win lots of nobel peace prizes as well!
Hi PopeADope! Thank you for you nice comment.
I like Victor Frankl as well and have read his book "Man's Search for Meaning" (although quite some time ago!). I appreciate anyone's effort to see out God. I'll check out Franz Werfel...sounds very interesting!.....Amish Taliban? Please expand!