It is very natural to believe

[paarsurrey]

Human life starts from believing. Isn't it, please?
When an infant is born it very naturally sucks milk from the breast of its mother, refuses normally to suck it from any other woman.
The infant very naturally believes that its parents will look after it for its needs and protect it from any harm and guide it having the correct understanding of things.
And keeps thus believing until it finds an anomaly.
Regards

 

[suncowiam]

Believing what?

Ghosts?

That's what my wife's side of the family believes in because they tell all their young that.

 

[Politesse]

I don't think that is so at all. We are incapable of "believing" anything when life begins; life and sustenance are gifts freely given regardless of belief.

 

[Nakosis]

Human life starts from believing. Isn't it, please?
Regards

Sure, we start out believing because we start out ignorant. So we believe when we cry we will be given attention. We believe our parents will protect us from harm. We believe our parents will guide us to having the correct understanding of things. Until we find the truth of something we've no choice except to believe in someone else.

The more we learn and discover for ourselves the less we have need to rely on belief in other people.

 

[Jumi]

Believing what? Many think their life began with first memories.

 

[LuisDantas]

Human life starts from believing. Isn't it, please?
Regards

From believing?

I am not very certain about what you mean here, sorry.

Human life, by a certain perspective, starts from the conception, from the joining of a sperm and an egg cells. Or one might well argue that it truly starts from being taken by a social culture and developing both a sense of individuality and a series of relationships with that social culture. There are other valid, alternate perspectives for when human life starts.

I don't know which one, if any, you are addressing with your question.

It is even less clear what you mean by "believing". My first assumption, naturally, is that you might mean "believing in the existence of a Creator God".

But that does not make any sense, at least to me. No valid way of describing the start of human life occurs to me that would involve such a belief, although the perspective of social integration would certainly come the closest.

But even then, even by that perspective, it is simply not at all true that belief in a deity - of any sort - is necessary for the development of a well-integrated, fully functional human being.

Therefore, while my answer is all but certain to be "no", I still have to ask you for some form of clarification or rewording before I actually understand your question.



However: your thread is titled "It is very natural to believe". That gives me a clue of sorts. Again, it feels reasonable to guess that you mean "to believe in a Creator God", or even "to believe in the existence of the one, true Creator God with no associates", given your well-known Ahmadiyya Muslim background.

And to that I can only answer that it is certainly very natural for a significant percentage of people to believe in such a God. I don't really understand how or why. But it happens.

I do however very much doubt it to be a very common occurrence. It seems clear to me that even most people who claim to believe in the literal existence of a Creator God do so largely out of a need to be accepted by social environments that will give them a hard time if they fail to conform to that expectation.

 

[paarsurrey]

From believing?

I am not very certain about what you mean here, sorry.

Human life, by a certain perspective, starts from the conception, from the joining of a sperm and an egg cells. Or one might well argue that it truly starts from being taken by a social culture and developing both a sense of individuality and a series of relationships with that social culture. There are other valid, alternate perspectives for when human life starts.

I don't know which one, if any, you are addressing with your question.

It is even less clear what you mean by "believing". My first assumption, naturally, is that you might mean "believing in the existence of a Creator God".

But that does not make any sense, at least to me. No valid way of describing the start of human life occurs to me that would involve such a belief, although the perspective of social integration would certainly come the closest.

But even then, even by that perspective, it is simply not at all true that belief in a deity - of any sort - is necessary for the development of a well-integrated, fully functional human being.

Therefore, while my answer is all but certain to be "no", I still have to ask you for some form of clarification or rewording before I actually understand your question.



However: your thread is titled "It is very natural to believe". That gives me a clue of sorts. Again, it feels reasonable to guess that you mean "to believe in a Creator God", or even "to believe in the existence of the one, true Creator God with no associates", given your well-known Ahmadiyya Muslim background.

And to that I can only answer that it is certainly very natural for a significant percentage of people to believe in such a God. I don't really understand how or why. But it happens.

I do however very much doubt it to be a very common occurrence. It seems clear to me that even most people who claim to believe in the literal existence of a Creator God do so largely out of a need to be accepted by social environments that will give them a hard time if they fail to conform to that expectation.

When an infant is born it very naturally sucks milk from the breast of its mother, refuses normally to suck it from any other woman.
Regards

 

[BSM1]

Human life starts from believing. Isn't it, please?
When an infant is born it very naturally sucks milk from the breast of its mother, refuses normally to suck it from any other woman.
Regards

Uhhh...you might want to Google "wet nurse"....just sayin'.

 

[LuisDantas]

When an infant is born it very naturally sucks milk from the breast of its mother, refuses normally to suck it from any other woman.
Regards

I am not certain about that, but taking that as true, I still fail to see what it has to do with beliefs of any form.

 

[paarsurrey]

Sure, we start out believing because we start out ignorant. So we believe when we cry we will be given attention. We believe our parents will protect us from harm. We believe our parents will guide us to having the correct understanding of things. Until we find the truth of something we've no choice except to believe in someone else.

The more we learn and discover for ourselves the less we have need to rely on belief in other people.

Yes, we believe very naturally that our parents will look after us for our needs and protect us from any harm and guide us having the correct understanding of things.
And keep thus believing until we find an anomaly.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Uhhh...you might want to Google "wet nurse"....just sayin'.

The infant most naturally will like to be breast-fed from its mother instead of the wet nurse.
What link one wants me to see specifically from Google, please?
Regards

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

From the example in your OP, I think what you mean is:

It is very natural to conform our expectations to those things that prove themselves to be consistent to us over time.

A child comes to expect the care of his parents, and sure this may mean he "believes" his parents will care for him... but that belief is based on a consistent stream of proof that his parents mean to do just that. And as you said, an anomaly in that consistency will cause the child to doubt.

If support for belief in God being "natural" is where you are going with this, then where is the consistent stream of proof that comes from God that would support belief as strong as a child believes in his parent?

 

[Orbit]

When an infant is born it very naturally sucks milk from the breast of its mother, refuses normally to suck it from any other woman.
Regards

That is not true; wet nurses have been common throughout history,

 

[paarsurrey]

I don't think that is so at all. We are incapable of "believing" anything when life begins; life and sustenance are gifts freely given regardless of belief.

Human education and knowledge starts in the womb of the mother.

"Babies only hours old are able to differentiate between sounds from their native language and a foreign language, scientists have discovered. The study indicates that babies begin absorbing language while still in the womb, earlier than previously thought.

Sensory and brain mechanisms for hearing are developed at 30 weeks of gestational age, and the new study shows that unborn babies are listening to their mothers talk during the last 10 weeks of pregnancy and at birth can demonstrate what they’ve heard."
While in womb, babies begin learning language from their mothers
This is very natural.
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

That is not true; wet nurses have been common throughout history,

Wet nurse is an exception or compulsion of events, normally and naturally an infant is breastfed by its mother and would refuse to take it from any other woman. Right, please?
Regards

 

[Vinayaka]

When an infant is born it very naturally sucks milk from the breast of its mother, refuses normally to suck it from any other woman.

Just so you know, Paar, this part is false. Most human babies will suckle whatever warm thing of the right size they come in contact with. Poor example.

 

[Vinayaka]

Wet nurse is an exception or compulsion of events, normally and naturally an infant is breastfed by its mother and would refuse to take it from any other woman. Right, please?
Regards

Then google 'baby bottle' or pinky finger.

 

[LuisDantas]

Yes, we believe very naturally that our parents will look after us for our needs and protect us from any harm and guide us having the correct understanding of things.
And keep thus believing until we find an anomaly.
Regards

I wonder if you realize that this line of arguing lends itself to evidencing that we humans tend to develop irrational attachments and dependences at least as naturally as to any claims about god-beliefs.

 

[paarsurrey]

From the example in your OP, I think what you mean is:

It is very natural to conform our expectations to those things that prove themselves to be consistent to us over time.

A child comes to expect the care of his parents, and sure this may mean he "believes" his parents will care for him... but that belief is based on a consistent stream of proof that his parents mean to do just that. And as you said, an anomaly in that consistency will cause the child to doubt.

If support for belief in God being "natural" is where you are going with this, then where is the consistent stream of proof that comes from God that would support belief as strong as a child believes in his parent?

The behaviors that are like a seed in the infancy would do take shape in the later stages of life is expressed by one as "It is very natural to conform our expectations to those things that happen to be consistent to us over time."

Regards

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

The behaviors that are like a seed in the infancy would do take shape in the later stages of life is expressed by one as "It is very natural to conform our expectations to those things that prove themselves to be consistent to us over time."

Regards

Please note where I specifically underlined the word "prove." If it can be unequivocally displayed that God (I guess first one would have to prove He exists) has legitimately proven Himself consistent, I will eat my hat.