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It is very natural to believe

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
While there are many unfounded, unworthy beliefs. There still are beliefs that matter, and hold true. Believing in yourself for example. That you can do what matters. Before you know something, you have to believe there is a way. And when you know something in full, you have to believe you can carry it out. Belief that is true comes with only knowledge.

Of course there is the way where know or do not know, do or do not do. Knowing is far better than believing. Knowing you can do something is far better than believing you can do something.

So its better to know, than to believe. Believe you may fail. Knowing is when you will do and succeed.

They each have their proper place, knowing, and believing.

Just starting out you have to believe what holds true.

I would test a belief, every time. Trial and error is a part of growing. I would NOT want to believe something is true and not test it.
So believing is primary to acquiring knowledge. If knowledge brings about an anomaly only then one is reasonable to change what one believes. It is very natural to believe.
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
So believing is primary to acquiring knowledge. If knowledge brings about an anomaly only then one is reasonable to change what one believes. It is very natural to believe.
Just to add:
The truthful revealed religion people have the belief "God exists" and
Atheism people have a belief "God does not exist ", nevertheless both have a belief. Right, please?

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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It is very natural to believe

I believe , fed by wet nurse, 'baby bottle' and or pinky finger etc hint to second nature but is not any way natural for an infant to be fed in the human history as is being fed by its mother. It is rather a deviation from the natural. Right, please?

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Case for study:
Moses
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
It is very natural to believe

Fed by wet nurse, 'baby bottle' and or pinky finger etc hint to second nature but is not any way natural for an infant to be fed in the human history as is being fed by its mother. It is rather a deviation from the natural. Right, please?

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No it's not, because the only natural part is the suckling reflex. The rest is a choice done by someone else than the baby.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Human education and knowledge starts in the womb of the mother.

"Babies only hours old are able to differentiate between sounds from their native language and a foreign language, scientists have discovered. The study indicates that babies begin absorbing language while still in the womb, earlier than previously thought.

Sensory and brain mechanisms for hearing are developed at 30 weeks of gestational age, and the new study shows that unborn babies are listening to their mothers talk during the last 10 weeks of pregnancy and at birth can demonstrate what they’ve heard."
While in womb, babies begin learning language from their mothers
This is very natural.
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Babies learn to distinguish the familiar from the unfamiliar -- sounds, people, places, odors, &c. They're not 'learning language' in the womb.
Wet nurse is an exception or compulsion of events, normally and naturally an infant is breastfed by its mother and would refuse to take it from any other woman. Right, please?
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A baby will suck on anything that's put in its mouth. It's a reflex, the baby has no choice.
That said, a baby also prefers the familiar. This is also a natural, unconscious survival mechanism.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That is part of nature. Isn't it, please?
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Of course, which is why small children uncritically believe whatever their parents tell them, including religious beliefs, rather than actually examining the beliefs logically.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Indeed. Apparently that is just too difficult for most Muslims to understand.
It's the paradigm of opposites. Extreme dualism. This or that. You're good, or you're evil. You're with us, or against us. You win, or you lose. Sadly, that thinking permeates much of the world.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
So it seems, @Vinayaka

Such dualism is IMO quite unadvisable, for several good reasons.

For one, people and situations are almost always considerably more complex than the dualism acknowledges. Labelling people in such a simplistic way is often immediately confortable, but it also hinders our ability to connect to those we disagree with. Quite a serious loss, for building bridges is a very valuable skill indeed.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
So it seems, @Vinayaka

Such dualism is IMO quite unadvisable, for several good reasons.

For one, people and situations are almost always considerably more complex than the dualism acknowledges. Labelling people in such a simplistic way is often immediately confortable, but it also hinders our ability to connect to those we disagree with. Quite a serious loss, for building bridges is a very valuable skill indeed.
I guess thinking is far easier if you just have two choices. Easier yet if someone else tells you which choice is the right one.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
It is very natural to believe

I believe , fed by wet nurse, 'baby bottle' and or pinky finger etc hint to second nature but is not any way natural for an infant to be fed in the human history as is being fed by its mother. It is rather a deviation from the natural. Right, please?

Regards
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Case for study:
Moses

Moses as infant refused to be breastfed by any other woman than his mother.
It hints about the natural from the unnatural.
Regards
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Moses as infant refused to be breastfed by any other woman than his mother.
It hints about the natural from the unnatural.
Regards
How do you know this? What did the infant Moses eat after he was found floating down the Nile?

This is all folklore and mythology.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
How do you know this? What did the infant Moses eat after he was found floating down the Nile?

This is all folklore and mythology.
Does one want that I should quote from the All-Evident about this event, please?
I believe it is a real event.
Regards
 
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