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It wasn’t “slavery”, it was just “involuntary relocation”.

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
I think you are missing the point. No one is objecting to using the phrase “involuntary relocated”, they are objecting to using this phrase in the place of “slavery”. The point of this is that they are not allowed to say “slavery”.
Who says they can't say "slavery"?

Involuntary relocation was one aspect of the Atlantic slave trade. Capture by indigenous populations, selling at African slave markets, involuntary relocation to America, another sale at American slave markets, and finally forced servitude.

And it is an important one to learn about. The hellish conditions, the treatment they received, the absolute debasement of humanity, the denial of dignity, etc.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Who says they can't say "slavery"?

Involuntary relocation was one aspect of the Atlantic slave trade. Capture by indigenous populations, selling at African slave markets, involuntary relocation to America, another sale at American slave markets, and finally forced servitude.

And it is an important one to learn about. The hellish conditions, the treatment they received, the absolute debasement of humanity, the denial of dignity, etc.
That is what they were proposing, replacing the term “slavery” with the term “involuntary relocation”. Of course involuntary relocation was part of what happened. But certainly not the totality of what happened. As you said it was one aspect. But Involuntary relocation makes it sound like they dragged these people over there and then left them alone. That is not what happened. When you teach about the slave trade call it the slave trade and teach all the ugliness of it.





 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Who says they can't say "slavery"?

Involuntary relocation was one aspect of the Atlantic slave trade. Capture by indigenous populations, selling at African slave markets, involuntary relocation to America, another sale at American slave markets, and finally forced servitude.

And it is an important one to learn about. The hellish conditions, the treatment they received, the absolute debasement of humanity, the denial of dignity, etc.
Then call it slavery and enslavement. This "softening of language" (George Carlin) is a problem and this is adding to it.
 

Kidron

Member
Education should make people feel uncomfortable. .

Thorns should make you feel uncomfortable.

Education, is not designed to make you feel, its designed to teach you how to assemble data, which shows you how to think analytically and logically ., which is the process of learning.

"feelings" are separate.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Thorns should make you feel uncomfortable.

Education, is not designed to make you feel, its designed to teach you how to assemble date, which shows you how to think analytically and logically ., which is the process of learning.

"feelings" are separate.
And learning how to properly think analytically and logically will render some uncomfortable subjects, topics and ideas. The World and Life can be very uncomfortable at times. As a good education will challenge held ideas then some discomfort is likely to happen. But learning to manage that too is a part of learning to grow up and act and function like a proper adult.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
And concentration camps for Japanese Ameristanians
could be called a "holiday in the wilderness".
The Japanese Americans did not go to concentration camps. They were sent to internment camps. There is quite a difference.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The Japanese Americans did not go to concentration camps. They were sent to internment camps. There is quite a difference.
They were sent to concentration camps. The two can be used interchangeably.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Thorns should make you feel uncomfortable.

Education, is not designed to make you feel, its designed to teach you how to assemble data, which shows you how to think analytically and logically ., which is the process of learning.

"feelings" are separate.
Seems like you are confusing “learning” with “programming”
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If one wants to obfuscate.
No, I did some checking before I posted that. They are interchangeable. Which, honestly did surprise me as I thought there might be some difference at least for grammar's sake. But there isn't one and the two can be used interchangeably.
 
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