Its going to be a rough ride

[pearl]

Does 'establshed law' mean anything anymore or in the future?

Will those living is same sex marriage have to become roomates again?

Abortions once again illegal? Even contraceptives?

Will voting rights be a thing of the past?

Republicans along with Evangelicals have promised to reverse the last 40 years of the Supreme Court.

I hope the Dems refuse to hear any of the nominees.

 

[Rival]

People are trying to kick social conservatives out of existence, but we will continue to exist as long as there are people. Trying to silence us is not really going to help.

 

[Subduction Zone]

People are trying to kick social conservatives out of existence, but we will continue to exist as long as there are people. Trying to silence us is not really going to help.

There is nothing wrong with being a social conservative. Just don't try to inflict your beliefs upon others. I don't think that anyone (oh wait, except for liberal college campuses) has tried to silence social conservatives.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Does 'establshed law' mean anything anymore or in the future?

How people want to be governed is determined by the people who are living, not those who have died before them. The moment we try to treat laws as unchangeable edicts is the moment that we ignore what it is to be human.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

People are trying to kick social conservatives out of existence, but we will continue to exist as long as there are people. Trying to silence us is not really going to help.

No one is exterminating or silencing social conservatives. They continue to have the same voting rights as social liberals.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

I don't think that anyone (oh wait, except for liberal college campuses) has tried to silence social conservatives.

If liberal college campuses were the only places people could voice their opinions you might have a point.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No one is exterminating or silencing social conservatives. They continue to have the same voting rights as social liberals.

They have been protested into silence on some college campuses when a talk was to be given. Not that I agree with any of them, but I do not like that tactic coming from either side.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I don't think that anyone (oh wait, except for liberal college campuses) has tried to silence social conservatives.

If liberal college campuses were the only places people could voice their opinions you might have a point.

Ahhh ... the old "you have free speech over there so it's fine if I curtail it over here" argument. Just lovely.

 

[Rival]

There is nothing wrong with being a social conservative. Just don't try to inflict your beliefs upon others. I don't think that anyone (oh wait, except for liberal college campuses) has tried to silence social conservatives.

If liberal college campuses were the only places people could voice their opinions you might have a point.

I was talking about this little slice,

I hope the Dems refuse to hear any of the nominees.

You can't really just 'refuse to listen' to your opponent if you're looking for a fair debate.

 

[PureX]

Does 'establshed law' mean anything anymore or in the future?

Will those living is same sex marriage have to become roomates again?

Abortions once again illegal? Even contraceptives?

Will voting rights be a thing of the past?

Republicans along with Evangelicals have promised to reverse the last 40 years of the Supreme Court.

I hope the Dems refuse to hear any of the nominees.

The dems will cave as they always do. It's why republicans have become so insanely arrogant and aggressive. No one ever stops them. Fascists rule when good people do nothing. The fight for freedom never ends because our would-be masters are always among us.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

Ahhh ... the old "you have free speech over there so it's fine if I curtail it over here" argument. Just lovely.

Ahhh . . . the old "if I can't force everyone to host me as a speaker then I am being silenced" argument. Just lovely.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If liberal college campuses were the only places people could voice their opinions you might have a point.

People should not be silenced at any public site. I am sure that conservatives have been guilty of the same in the past. It is an action that usually backfires eventually on the people doing the silencing. If a person is wrong let them hang themselves with their own words. Don't turn them into martyrs where they can use the oppression of others against that group.


When the gay Republican that now works with Alex Jones was silenced it only helped the nut burgers that support him. He still got his message out. Better to refute and ignore than to attempt to shut up.

 

[Revoltingest]

There is nothing wrong with being a social conservative. Just don't try to inflict your beliefs upon others. I don't think that anyone (oh wait, except for liberal college campuses) has tried to silence social conservatives.

But it's OK for modern liberals to inflict their beliefs upon others?
I don't like curbing civil liberties (the ones they dislike), high taxes,
massive bureaucracy, & talk of requiring service (military or social)
rankle me.
Every side always thinks it has The Truth, & that their agenda is
righteous, unlike the evil other side. Evil is as evil does, & it lurks
on both sides of the aisle.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ahhh . . . the old "if I can't force everyone to host me as a speaker then I am being silenced" argument. Just lovely.

No one was being forced to host others. These were cases where they had jumped through the hoops according to the rules and regulations of the colleges involved and then they were silenced after the fact. At least argue against the actual case. Once again, these actions tend to backfire since those on the fence recognize injustice, whether it comes from the right or the left, when it occurs.

 

[Nakosis]

Does 'establshed law' mean anything anymore or in the future?

Will those living is same sex marriage have to become roomates again?

Abortions once again illegal? Even contraceptives?

Will voting rights be a thing of the past?

Republicans along with Evangelicals have promised to reverse the last 40 years of the Supreme Court.

I hope the Dems refuse to hear any of the nominees.

The government is not your friend. The bigger it gets, the more it will decide what is right for you. That's all well and good as long as you agree with it. When folks you don't agree with come to power, guess what? The foundation was already put in place to control your life. Too late to have second thoughts about bigger government now.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

People should not be silenced at any public site. I am sure that conservatives have been guilty of the same in the past. It is an action that usually backfires eventually on the people doing the silencing. If a person is wrong let them hang themselves with their own words. Don't turn them into martyrs where they can use the oppression of others against that group.


When the gay Republican that now works with Alex Jones was silenced it only helped the nut burgers that support him. He still got his message out. Better to refute and ignore than to attempt to shut up.

If students are prevented from voicing their opinion at public sites then that would be a problem. I think there is a difference between feeling ostracized for voicing an opinion and actually being prevented from voicing an opinion. There is also a difference between the public square and a platform where people are invited to talk.

 

[Thermos aquaticus]

No one was being forced to host others. These were cases where they had jumped through the hoops according to the rules and regulations of the colleges involved and then they were silenced after the fact.

I have yet to see a case where any college was able to silence any speaker. These same people continue to voice their opinions all over the place without any college being able to stop them. I may even agree that they are misusing their discretion when it comes to who speaks in their forums, but that is far from being silenced.

 

[Subduction Zone]

But it's OK for modern liberals to inflict their beliefs upon others?
I don't like curbing civil liberties (the ones they dislike), high taxes,
massive bureaucracy, & talk of requiring service (military or social)
rankle me.
Every side always thinks it has The Truth, & that their agenda is
righteous, unlike the evil other side.

I am not for the infliction by either side. But when it comes to one side saying "You can't marry the one that you love" I do have problems with that. If two gay people get married it does not affect me. It does not change marriage for me. If a person wants to spew idiocy on a college campus after jumping through various hoops, liberal or conservative, it is none of my business.

Taxes are a necessary evil and are decided in congress, but that is not what this is about.

By the way, the recent Supreme Court ruling indicates that one may have the freedom of doing business with who they choose. So that objection from the right may disappear.

I am pretty much on the side of "If it does not harm someone else it is not my business".

 

[Stanyon]

Sounds like more scare mongering, mid terms are coming up so this is expected.

 

[Revoltingest]

I am not for the infliction by either side. But when it comes to one side saying "You can't marry the one that you love" I do have problems with that. If two gay people get married it does not affect me. It does not change marriage for me. If a person wants to spew idiocy on a college campus after jumping through various hoops, liberal or conservative, it is none of my business.

Taxes are a necessary evil and are decided in congress, but that is not what this is about.

By the way, the recent Supreme Court ruling indicates that one may have the freedom of doing business with who they choose. So that objection from the right may disappear.

I am pretty much on the side of "If it does not harm someone else it is not my business".

You & I have pretty much the same concerns with conservatives.
But they shouldn't be portrayed as alone in threatening liberty.