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Jehovah's Witness cartoon suggests to Children that magic-themed toys make Jehovah 'sad'

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The encyclopedias( FACT of mortal history) assures all of the pagan practices off the table of demons added to many celebrations or the celebrations began as pagan holidays. My teachers were wise enough to warn us to be no part of this satan ruled world--here you are fighting to be apart of satans world--all of creation( that knows anything) can see it
First, you don't know me, so don't make statements about me, you are totally ignorant of what I may or may not be "fighting", so get off your non Christian judgemental throne your wise teachers told you to sit in and list the holiday's that have put a burr under your saddle. We'll talk about them. Tell me what you think the history of them may be, and feel free to use your encyclopedia. You know, of course that encyclopedia's aren't Divinely inspired and inerrant, don't you ?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Do Jehovah's Witnesses not teach anymore that God and Jesus will come finally to kill all the bad people?


God warned all over 1900 years ago--he has the right to say exactly what goes on in his creation. He is always correct.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
God warned all over 1900 years ago--he has the right to say exactly what goes on in his creation. He is always correct.
I agree with you! But then, I can't agree with what you said. This> "One cannot kill if they love."
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
First, you don't know me, so don't make statements about me, you are totally ignorant of what I may or may not be "fighting", so get off your non Christian judgemental throne your wise teachers told you to sit in and list the holiday's that have put a burr under your saddle. We'll talk about them. Tell me what you think the history of them may be, and feel free to use your encyclopedia. You know, of course that encyclopedia's aren't Divinely inspired and inerrant, don't you ?



Gods word has passed judgement already--Did you miss the part where it teaches the bible is a two edged sword. One cannot miss the judgements if they actually listened to Jesus who taught---Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. Every true follower does exactly that. Every real teacher that belongs to Jesus make 100% sure that is accomplished by every flock member without fail.
The question should be which world celebrations don't satan own= 0
Feel free to choose one to discuss. Even mothers day began as worship to the mother of the gods.
birthday--promotes--self--many use it as an excuse for excess sins. Who deserves the celebration--the creator or created?
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
We warn of things that come off the table of demons--like the additives in Christmas--God says no matter what you think you do for him or have love for him if one partakes off the table of demons--anything they do for God counts as 0. 1Cor 10:21) God said one cannot partake of that table and his table. It has nothing to do with feeling superior--It has everything to do with many missing entrance into Gods kingdom because they must fit in now.
Jesus will slam Christmas.
Goodness ! Jesus will slam Christmas. Tell me, how does "anything you do for him" count for anything ? Are you implying there are Divine brownie points for good works ? Do you get X number of these points for each door you knock on ? I know you aren't talking about using them for salvation, since everybody gets a second bite of the apple anyway according to your theology, so, where do you cash them in and for what ?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I've heard of infantilizing people, but that's just sad.
Infant schools have existed in the UK for over 100 years. I thought they covered up to 7yrs. I was wrong, they include up to 8yrs.
Our use of the word is just different from yours.
You think we're sad, but we probably just understand your ideas better than you understand ours.

infant
ˈɪnf(ə)nt/
noun
    • BRITISH
      a schoolchild between the ages of about four and eight.

    • :shrug:

All adults should have been kids at one time and can tell from how they were raised what worked and what didn't.
Ha ha! :D
So all kids had great parents, then?
Not!
And we went to school so we could be natural teachers?

Also, I have a degree in psychology and child development was an easy A for me.
A Degree in Psychology, the most inexact science on the planet? Congratulations! Bully for you! :D
So when are they going to stop changing their minds about it all?
:p
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I agree with you! But then, I can't agree with what you said. This> "One cannot kill if they love."


To defend ones home or family is much different than being sent overseas to places where they did 0 to the ones being sent= murder.
Goodness ! Jesus will slam Christmas. Tell me, how does "anything you do for him" count for anything ? Are you implying there are Divine brownie points for good works ? Do you get X number of these points for each door you knock on ? I know you aren't talking about using them for salvation, since everybody gets a second bite of the apple anyway according to your theology, so, where do you cash them in and for what ?



Works builds a strong living faith--without the works ones faith is worthless( dead)
Jesus accepts 0 off the table of demons--both Christmas and easter is loaded with them.
Jesus cares little about lip service--he wants to be obeyed--every singe teaching he gave to us. obeying is proof of ones love.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
@kjw47 Can you please rightly address the point? YOU say, "one who loves does not kill"
But, God IS LOVE and according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, God kills.

It doesn't make sense. Is making sense not right?
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
To defend ones home or family is much different than being sent overseas to places where they did 0 to the ones being sent= murder.
I think that you shouldn't comment on stuff you know nothing about. War is about defending home and family. They are not always right, but many times they are right about it. You blame people for being grey, You are. Either no killing is the way or killing for defense is the way. You can't have it both ways. The little I know about modern war, most of the time it is done in defense. Not of your family, but of the values that protect all families.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
To defend ones home or family is much different than being sent overseas to places where they did 0 to the ones being sent= murder.




Works builds a strong living faith--without the works ones faith is worthless( dead)
Jesus accepts 0 off the table of demons--both Christmas and easter is loaded with them.
Jesus cares little about lip service--he wants to be obeyed--every singe teaching he gave to us. obeying is proof of ones love.
Obeying is proof of ones love ? In a sense yes. In a sense, no. Weren';t the Pharisee's great obeyers ? How much love did they have ? What about the those who come to Christ at the end and tell him about all the wonderful things they have done, and are rejected ? I assume then that you are perfectly sanctified, good for you, I have been trying for a long long time to get there, but won't in this life. You rant about Christmas and Easter, but are totally non specific as to why keeping them is wrong. Is the idea of celebrating the Resurrection wrong, or the birth of Christ ? You give your opinion, but no scripture to support your position, please do. Also, I would like you to tell me about the satanic things in these holidays, and how keeping them is satanic, and how your indictment applies to each and every person who celebrates them. Opinions are like rectums, everybody has one. For your opinion to be anything more than hot air, you need historical fact, and scripture, you have provided neither.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
@kjw47 Can you please rightly address the point? YOU say, "one who loves does not kill"
But, God IS LOVE and according to the Jehovah's Witnesses, God kills.

It doesn't make sense. Is making sense not right?


God created all things--God owns all things--God says 100% what goes in his creation. If creation does not like it--then God will help those leave.
All have been given the opportunity to make their choice-Deuteronomy 30:19--by actions, not lip service.
God is holy-holy-holy-- He does things out of righteousness. Mortals are al sinners. Not one will be anothers judge, then or now.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I think that you shouldn't comment on stuff you know nothing about. War is about defending home and family. They are not always right, but many times they are right about it. You blame people for being grey, You are. Either no killing is the way or killing for defense is the way. You can't have it both ways. The little I know about modern war, most of the time it is done in defense. Not of your family, but of the values that protect all families.


in which illusion does this occur? Govts lie through their teeth--they are corrupt to the core--they cause division. Like wmd in Iraq--300,000 dead Iraqis in the initial bombings--Why? This is what ones send their sons and daughters to kill for. 2Peter 2:19--they promise you freedom, yet they themselves are still slaves to corruption( depravity)
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Obeying is proof of ones love ? In a sense yes. In a sense, no. Weren';t the Pharisee's great obeyers ? How much love did they have ? What about the those who come to Christ at the end and tell him about all the wonderful things they have done, and are rejected ? I assume then that you are perfectly sanctified, good for you, I have been trying for a long long time to get there, but won't in this life. You rant about Christmas and Easter, but are totally non specific as to why keeping them is wrong. Is the idea of celebrating the Resurrection wrong, or the birth of Christ ? You give your opinion, but no scripture to support your position, please do. Also, I would like you to tell me about the satanic things in these holidays, and how keeping them is satanic, and how your indictment applies to each and every person who celebrates them. Opinions are like rectums, everybody has one. For your opinion to be anything more than hot air, you need historical fact, and scripture, you have provided neither.


The facts of the pagan additives are in the encyclopedias. unrefutable facts.
The bible says--By the traditions of men you make the word of God invalid-----not one celebration is biblical;--mans traditionswith added pagan practices off the table of demons---You cant fight it all the way. it will not alter reality.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The facts of the pagan additives are in the encyclopedias. unrefutable facts.
The bible says--By the traditions of men you make the word of God invalid-----not one celebration is biblical;--mans traditionswith added pagan practices off the table of demons---You cant fight it all the way. it will not alter reality.
I see, so neither Easter nor Christmas are Biblical. All you have to do is prove your assertion. How many encyclopediaś have you read on the subject ? Are encyclopediaś your sole source of historical knowledge ? Here is an obvious fact, you like to pontificate, without one scintilla of evidence to back up your pontifications. I once saw a cartoon about folk like you. A guy in a monks habit was carrying a sign on a stake that said ¨beware, the end is near¨, the next panel showed him slipping on a banana peel, the third panel showed him lying on the ground, the sign going up in the air, coming down with the stake stuck in his chest. Without evidence, Biblical and historical evidence, what you say is nothing more than empty blathering. Do you have a fixation on tables ?
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
The facts of the pagan additives are in the encyclopedias. unrefutable facts.
The bible says--By the traditions of men you make the word of God invalid-----not one celebration is biblical;--mans traditionswith added pagan practices off the table of demons---You cant fight it all the way. it will not alter reality.
Encyclopedias are refuted all the time. In fact, every time a new edition comes out, it refutes many things it said in itś previous edition. Knowledge changes, improveś, it isn´t static. Dogma and dogmatists are static.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Gods word has passed judgement already--Did you miss the part where it teaches the bible is a two edged sword. One cannot miss the judgements if they actually listened to Jesus who taught---Man does not live by bread alone, but by EVERY utterance from God. Every true follower does exactly that. Every real teacher that belongs to Jesus make 100% sure that is accomplished by every flock member without fail.
The question should be which world celebrations don't satan own= 0
Feel free to choose one to discuss. Even mothers day began as worship to the mother of the gods.
birthday--promotes--self--many use it as an excuse for excess sins. Who deserves the celebration--the creator or created?
Please tell me chapter and verse from the Bible where celebrating a birthday is prohibited. PROVE Mothers day began as a day of worship to the mother of the gods.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
God created all things--God owns all things--God says 100% what goes in his creation. If creation does not like it--then God will help those leave.
All have been given the opportunity to make their choice-Deuteronomy 30:19--by actions, not lip service.
God is holy-holy-holy-- He does things out of righteousness. Mortals are al sinners. Not one will be anothers judge, then or now.
So, I think what you are saying is that it is wrong to say that love does not kill.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
Watching the video in the OP puts me in mind of what I told my daughters about religion......it's amazing how much of it boils down to "the gods will be angry".
 
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