Jehovah's Witnesses; Why does the NWT mess with pronouns?

[Tumah]

........and they put one in at Numbers 11:17

17 I will come down+ and speak with you there,+ and I will take away some of the spirit+ that is on you and place it on them, and they will help you in bearing the burden of the people so that you may not have to bear it alone.+

3381 [e] wə-yā-raḏ-tî, וְיָרַדְתִּ֗י And I will come down Verb
1696 [e] wə-ḏib-bar-tî וְדִבַּרְתִּ֣י and talk Verb
5973 [e] ‘im-mə-ḵā עִמְּךָ֮ with you Prep
8033 [e] šām שָׁם֒ there Adv
680 [e] wə-’ā-ṣal-tî, וְאָצַלְתִּ֗י and I will take Verb
4480 [e] min- מִן־ of Prep
7307 [e] hā-rū-aḥ הָר֛וּחַ the spirit Noun
834 [e] ’ă-šer אֲשֶׁ֥ר that [is] Prt
5921 [e] ‘ā-le-ḵā עָלֶ֖יךָ on you Prep
7760 [e] wə-śam-tî וְשַׂמְתִּ֣י and will put Verb
5921 [e] ‘ă-lê-hem; עֲלֵיהֶ֑ם on them Prep
5375 [e] wə-nā-śə-’ū וְנָשְׂא֤וּ and they shall bear Verb
854 [e] ’it-tə-ḵā אִתְּךָ֙ with you Prep
4853 [e] bə-maś-śā בְּמַשָּׂ֣א the burden Noun
5971 [e] hā-‘ām, הָעָ֔ם of the people Noun
3808 [e] wə-lō- וְלֹא־ and not Adv
5375 [e] ṯiś-śā תִשָּׂ֥א shall bear Verb
859 [e] ’at-tāh אַתָּ֖ה you Pro
905 [e] lə-ḇad-de-ḵā. לְבַדֶּֽךָ׃ alone Noun

So? Why do the Jehovah's Witnesses change pronouns? And why do some @Deeje accuse US of messing with The Word?

This isn't a mistake. The subject is written, but that is the intent of the verse. It wouldn't make sense in English without it. I don't see what your problem is with this.

It is difficult to explain for reasons I am not qualified for, but I'll try.

There is God. God is Creator as described by someone who wrote The Bible.
In the Bible God is called יְהוָה֙.
They say Jehovah is an alright transliteration of יְהוָה֙.

I don't know who they are. But they aren't very knowledgeable. For one thing, wherever it is you copied that spelling from, the vowels got messed up and it says "YiHWaHO".
For another, the vowels points used in the Tetragrammaton by the Masoretes were based on the reading of the word "Ad-nai". They aren't the original vowels as those were lost long before the Masoretes came to the scene. Additionally, there are other vowel used in a number of places throughout the Tanach. So essentially what you have is a bunch of Christians using the pronunciation created by the Masoretes to replace the Name of G-d...

I don't agree with them, but Jehovah is God's common name which they USE to draw people to their way of thinking. To use God's Name for anything is human vanity imho. To use God's Name for one's own purposes is to sin against that commandment.
There is a difference between use and to carry. The Jews are to carry God's Name יְהוָה֙.
I do not trust modern Jews are doing it. I trust the writers of The Bible did it right. They were/are the true witnesses of יְהוָה֙. I believe in Jesus. Jesus means salvation by יְהוָה֙. I believe in that.

Actually, it looks like you think the Author of the Tanach got it wrong - for not commanding His people to do the things you expect they should do.

 

[savagewind]

Actually, it looks like you think the Author of the Tanach got it wrong - for not commanding His people to do the things you expect they should do.

Genesis 22:18 What does it mean "all"?

 

[Tumah]

Genesis 22:18 What does it mean "all"?

It means that all the nations in the whole world will eventually receive some sort of blessing through Abraham's progeny. But why not stick to the subject...

 

[savagewind]

It means that all the nations in the whole world will eventually receive some sort of blessing through Abraham's progeny. But why not stick to the subject...

Wait a gosh darn minute! The blessing is what I "expect". Are you saying it will happen for us WITHOUT knowledge of the Giver? I don't believe you.

 

[Tumah]

Wait a gosh darn minute! The blessing is what I "expect". Are you saying it will happen for us WITHOUT knowledge of the Giver? I don't believe you.

Except its a blessing, not an instruction.
If we had to do it to make it be fulfilled, it would be a command.
If it was written in the form of a command, it would be a command.
Its not. Because its something that will happen, not something that we are commanded to do.

 

[Ben Avraham]

I do not doubt it. It is still a club that a person like me can't join.

I have no problem with the motif you have in mind to join. Go for the learning. You can't imagine how much they have to teach you for eight months before anointing you as one of us.

 

[Ben Avraham]

Right, but teaching something wrong, which I believe the teachings are for the way in which we should walk (just like they think so), is not for the well-being of the ones being taught. I think that would be obvious.

Imagine a chemistry class where the teacher insists on mixing the wrong elements over and over and over again.

Are you implying that the Jews do not teach the truth? Have I said any thing here that I have missed to show the proper evidence in the gospel of Jesus which was the Tanach? Mention it to me. If whatever I say is not the same said by Jesus,
I'll reconsider. Just mind you that whatever you mention about Jesus, it must be Jewish or it was not said by him.

 

[savagewind]

I have no problem with the motif you have in mind to join. Go for the learning. You can't imagine how much they have to teach you for eight months before anointing you as one of us.

I'm a girl. Can I still do that?

 

[savagewind]

Are you implying that the Jews do not teach the truth? Have I said any thing here that I have missed to show the proper evidence in the gospel of Jesus which was the Tanach? Mention it to me. If whatever I say is not the same said by Jesus,
I'll reconsider. Just mind you that whatever you mention about Jesus, it must be Jewish or it was not said by him.

There is no proof except real evidence philosophically, but I'll say it anyway.

The real evidence is that a person can love God (love is forever) and a person can choose not to love God.

Am I right so far?

It is the truth that lying to mislead another person is NOT loving God. Agree?
It is the truth that causing divisions within a family is NOT loving God. Agree?
It is the truth that to run to badness is NOT loving God. Agree?

Someone could argue that a person who does such things might be loving God, but it is my opinion that such arguments would be pure vanity.

According to the Jews, is God NOT love? I learned and am learning that GOD IS LOVE. Am I learning something which isn't true?

The Jews teach that God is not ALWAYS love. They really do. Do you want your own scriptures back at you?

 

[Ben Avraham]

I'm a girl. Can I still do that?

But of course! Many girls have converted to Judaism. And the text in Isaiah 56:1-8 says that both, boys and girls who join
the Lord's Covenant with His People will get a name better than sons and daughters.

 

[Ben Avraham]

There is no proof except real evidence philosophically, but I'll say it anyway.

Go ahead! I am all ears.

The real evidence is that a person can love God (love is forever) and a person can choose not to love God.

No, ma'am, love is not forever. Even the love of God is conditional on returning obedience to His Law.

Am I right so far?

Unfortunately not, but don't give up. We have only started learning.

It is the truth that lying to mislead another person is NOT loving God. Agree?
It is the truth that causing divisions within a family is NOT loving God. Agree?
It is the truth that to run to badness is NOT loving God. Agree?

I agree with all the above.

Someone could argue that a person who does such things might be loving God, but it is my opinion that such arguments would be pure vanity.

Yes, I do agree with you.

According to the Jews, is God NOT love? I learned and am learning that GOD IS LOVE. Am I learning something which isn't true?

God is love no doubt, but His love for us is conditional on the obedience of His commandments.

The Jews teach that God is not ALWAYS love. They really do. Do you want your own scriptures back at you?

God is ALWAYS love and every thing He does is based on what He is always. The point is that we do not always deserve His love. Since we have been granted with the attribute of Freewill, it depends on us to keep the love of God with us or choose to behave the way we please.

There is no proof except real evidence philosophically, but I'll say it anyway.

 

[Blessed of JEHOVAH]

Acts of the Apostles 1:15
Acts 1:15 During those days Peter stood up in the midst of the brothers (the number* of people was altogether about 120) and said:

They took out the pronoun at Acts 1:15........

Strong's Transliteration Greek English Morphology
2532 [e] Kai Καὶ And
1722 [e] en ἐν in
3588 [e] tais ταῖς the
2250 [e] hēmerais ἡμέραις days
3778 [e] tautais ταύταις these,
450 [e] anastas ἀναστὰς having stood up
4074 [e] Petros Πέτρος Peter
1722 [e] en ἐν in
3319 [e] mesō μέσῳ [the] midst
3588 [e] tōn τῶν of the
80 [e] adelphōn ἀδελφῶν brothers,
3004 [e] eipen εἶπεν· said,
1510 [e] ēn ἦν was
5037 [e] te τε moreover
3793 [e] ochlos ὄχλος [the] number
3686 [e] onomatōn ὀνομάτων of names
1909 [e] epi ἐπὶ together
3588 [e] to τὸ the
846 [e] auto αὐτὸ same, PPro-AN3S
5616 [e] hōsei ὡσεὶ about
1540 [e] hekaton ἑκατὸν a hundred
1501 [e] eikosi εἴκοσι [and] twenty,

........and they put one in at Numbers 11:17

17 I will come down+ and speak with you there,+ and I will take away some of the spirit+ that is on you and place it on them, and they will help you in bearing the burden of the people so that you may not have to bear it alone.+

3381 [e] wə-yā-raḏ-tî, וְיָרַדְתִּ֗י And I will come down Verb
1696 [e] wə-ḏib-bar-tî וְדִבַּרְתִּ֣י and talk Verb
5973 [e] ‘im-mə-ḵā עִמְּךָ֮ with you Prep
8033 [e] šām שָׁם֒ there Adv
680 [e] wə-’ā-ṣal-tî, וְאָצַלְתִּ֗י and I will take Verb
4480 [e] min- מִן־ of Prep
7307 [e] hā-rū-aḥ הָר֛וּחַ the spirit Noun
834 [e] ’ă-šer אֲשֶׁ֥ר that [is] Prt
5921 [e] ‘ā-le-ḵā עָלֶ֖יךָ on you Prep
7760 [e] wə-śam-tî וְשַׂמְתִּ֣י and will put Verb
5921 [e] ‘ă-lê-hem; עֲלֵיהֶ֑ם on them Prep
5375 [e] wə-nā-śə-’ū וְנָשְׂא֤וּ and they shall bear Verb
854 [e] ’it-tə-ḵā אִתְּךָ֙ with you Prep
4853 [e] bə-maś-śā בְּמַשָּׂ֣א the burden Noun
5971 [e] hā-‘ām, הָעָ֔ם of the people Noun
3808 [e] wə-lō- וְלֹא־ and not Adv
5375 [e] ṯiś-śā תִשָּׂ֥א shall bear Verb
859 [e] ’at-tāh אַתָּ֖ה you Pro
905 [e] lə-ḇad-de-ḵā. לְבַדֶּֽךָ׃ alone Noun

So? Why do the Jehovah's Witnesses change pronouns? And why do some @Deeje accuse US of messing with The Word?

 

[Blessed of JEHOVAH]

14 Keep reminding them of these things, instructing them before God not to fight about words, something of no usefulness at all because it harms those listening. 15 Do your utmost to present yourself approved to God, a workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright. 16 But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness.

 

[savagewind]

14 Keep reminding them of these things, instructing them before God not to fight about words, something of no usefulness at all because it harms those listening. 15 Do your utmost to present yourself approved to God, a workman with nothing to be ashamed of, handling the word of the truth aright. 16 But reject empty speeches that violate what is holy, for they will lead to more and more ungodliness.

It's really not just about words and it is not about fighting which 2 Timothy 2:14 actually warns about.
It's about meaning. Isn't it meaning which leads a person to where he goes?
YOU say I am fighting about words, but I think I am warning about the meaning of words. Who is right? If you believe me, you won't get anything for your trouble. If you believe your conscience, you will get everlasting life on a paradise Earth according to your belief. What are you more apt to believe in?