Jesus and the fig tree

[satori8]

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One of the things I heard before is the fig tree wasnt in season to begin with. Was it in season? AND why did he take it out on a fig tree?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

(Out of curiosity: have you looked into the forum's search facility?)

 

[satori8]

No im new

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

For what it's worth: I suspect that it's allegorical, with the fig tree symbolizing the Temple.

 

[Sleeppy]

Do you recall when Elijah cursed the young men, who were mauled by bears?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Do you recall when Elijah cursed the young men, who were mauled by bears?

Do you recall the thread topic?

 

[Sleeppy]

Do you recall the thread topic?

Pay attention.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

Do you recall when Elijah cursed the young men, who were mauled by bears?

Weren't the boys? I don't remember it being young men.

Either way...quite a disproportion retribution...but i guess this was before the whole turn the whole cheek thing....

 

[Sleeppy]

The young men were cursing Elisha. They were cursing Elijah. They were cursing the power of God. And yet, they had been the only ones cursed. When Elisha heard and saw the number of them speaking evil, he proclaimed what he had come to know; they were vile. So when Elisha proclaimed them cursed, he wasn't doing so of his own accord. He was prophesying what God had already foretold.

The same of the fig tree. It appeared to be coming into season, from afar, bearing leaves. But when Jesus observed it, he knew that it was not fruitful and would not "Be fruitful and multiply," as is God's command for the living. He proclaimed what He observed, that the tree was dying, according to God's command, and from henceforth it testified of God. And Jesus told the disciples taking notice, "Have faith in God."

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

The young men were cursing Elisha. They were cursing Elijah. They were cursing the power of God. And yet, they had been the only ones cursed. When Elisha heard and saw the number of them speaking evil, he proclaimed what he had come to know; they were vile. So when Elisha proclaimed them cursed, he wasn't doing so of his own accord. He was prophesying what God had already foretold.

The same of the fig tree. It appeared to be coming into season, from afar, bearing leaves. But when Jesus observed it, he knew that it was not fruitful and would not "Be fruitful and multiply," as is God's command for the living. He proclaimed what He observed, that the tree was dying, according to God's command, and from henceforth it testified of God. And Jesus told the disciples taking notice, "Have faith in God."

They called Elisha bald and every translation I've seen has either been boys or small boys not young men. I don't see them cursing him in any of the translations either.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

They called Elisha bald and every translation I've seen ...

Don't confuse him with facts.

 

[Sleeppy]

They called Elisha bald and every translation I've seen has either been boys or small boys not young men. I don't see them cursing him in any of the translations either.

42> small boys gathered together to jeer a well known prophet as he was walking through? And this prophet who was going through performing miracles and other works, for the sake of the people, became offended enough by a simple observation, to curse them?

Scripture Illustrations from the Domestic Life of the Jews and Other Eastern ... - John Eadie - Google Books

I can't read Hebrew, but I'm willing to bet this wasn't an organisation of children.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

42> small boys gathered together to jeer a well known prophet as he was walking through? And this prophet who was going through performing miracles and other works, for the sake of the people, became offended enough by a simple observation, to curse them?

Scripture Illustrations from the Domestic Life of the Jews and Other Eastern ... - John Eadie - Google Books

I can't read Hebrew, but I'm willing to bet this wasn't an organisation of children.

Shrug I can't read Hebrew either I can read the attempted translations. And so they were teasing him and calling him bald, not cursing him. Now it certainly was rude of them, and disrespectful. That being said being mauled by a bear...also hadn't Elisha just become a prophet cause this was after Elijah had been taken up into heaven though I'm not sure about that point

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

42> small boys gathered together to jeer a well known prophet as he was walking through? And this prophet who was going through performing miracles and other works, for the sake of the people, became offended enough by a simple observation, to curse them?

Scripture Illustrations from the Domestic Life of the Jews and Other Eastern ... - John Eadie - Google Books

I can't read Hebrew, but I'm willing to bet this wasn't an organisation of children.

Shrug I can't read Hebrew either I can read the attempted translations. And so they were teasing him and calling him bald, not cursing him. Now it certainly was rude of them, and disrespectful. That being said being mauled by a bear...also hadn't Elisha just become a prophet cause this was after Elijah had been taken up into heaven though I'm not sure about that point

 

[Sleeppy]

Shrug I can't read Hebrew either I can read the attempted translations. And so they were teasing him and calling him bald, not cursing him. Now it certainly was rude of them, and disrespectful. That being said being mauled by a bear...also hadn't Elisha just become a prophet cause this was after Elijah had been taken up into heaven though I'm not sure about that point

We're off topic now. I'll leave this question for you to research and answer for yourself: Why we're they assembled to mock him? Why did they mock his baldness?

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

We're off topic now. I'll leave this question for you to research and answer for yourself: Why we're they assembled to mock him? Why did they mock his baldness?

American King James Version
And he went up from there to Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said to him, Go up, you bald head; go up, you bald head.

Does it say? No so all you can do is interpret based off the customs of the day. But those would be interpretations which the verse does not offer.

If you go by interpretation, then the youth (who may have been Jewish or not) made fun of his baldness cause like in many cultures its considered a sign of weakness/being cursed/less of a man...etc.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I can't read Hebrew, but I'm willing to bet this wasn't an organisation of children.

And you're willing to claim that ...

The young men were cursing Elisha.

... without a shred of evidence. You simply fabricate your facts and proclaim them.

Perhaps we should get back on topic or simply let the thread die a natural death.

 

[ChristineES]

Cursing the fig tree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

One of the things I heard before is the fig tree wasn't in season to begin with. Was it in season? AND why did he take it out on a fig tree?

My take on it this story is this (I apologize if it's already been told): It wasn't about the fig tree- it is symbolic of what happens to something who doesn't do what he or she is supposed to. Jesus also used trees to describe this- branches that don't bear fruit are cut off (pruning).

It's the same with anything- if you have a job and you don't do it or you don't do it correctly even after you've been trained thoroughly, you are fired.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

My take on it this story is this (I apologize if it's already been told): It wasn't about the fig tree- it is symbolic of what happens to something who doesn't do what he or she is supposed to. Jesus also used trees to describe this- branches that don't bear fruit are cut off (pruning).

It's the same with anything- if you have a job and you don't do it or you don't do it correctly even after you've been trained thoroughly, you are fired.

Lol that poor fig tree died cause it didn't produce fruit...would have been nice to teach it without cursing the poor tree. Especially cause it wasn't in season as well.

 

[ChristineES]

Lol that poor fig tree died cause it didn't produce fruit...would have been nice to teach it without cursing the poor tree. Especially cause it wasn't in season as well.

Maybe so.

Maybe he wanted an object lesson or maybe the tree was sick. We really don't know the specifics.