Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Everlasting Punishment in Fire and not just Fire but a Fire much hotter than fire on earth, as Satan will enter there.
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Everlasting Punishment in Fire and not just Fire but a Fire much hotter than fire on earth, as Satan will enter there.
ThirtyThree
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Everlasting Punishment in Fire and not just Fire but a Fire much hotter than fire on earth, as Satan will enter there.
Everlasting punishment in fire which is hotter than any fire on Earth. Would you please explain to me how such a punishment is just, especially for sins done by mortals?
psychoslice
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One word. conditioning.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Just?
I think you need a dictionary.
Anyhow, everything i say is not 100% accurate, okay.
God judges best and never is Unjust in the least degree, so he knows much more than us obviously.
Just is fair behavior. Everyone who has sinned and done bad and are disbelievers who insult, they failed the test, the teacher cannot just promote them.
They get a punishment.
Those who have been on the right track and continue to be being on the right path shall be granted Heaven.
ThirtyThree
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They get punishment, is one thing. That punishment going on without end, is another?Just?
I think you need a dictionary.
Anyhow, everything i say is not 100% accurate, okay.
God judges best and never is Unjust in the least degree, so he knows much more than us obviously.
Just is fair behavior. Everyone who has sinned and done bad and are disbelievers who insult, they failed the test, the teacher cannot just promote them.
They get a punishment.
Those who have been on the right track and continue to be being on the right path shall be granted Heaven.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Apparently you desperately want to chat about Isaiah 7:14. Why not stop trolling and simple make your point (no matter how lame)?
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
How so?
Please explain to me why I deserve punishment in fire hotter than any fire on Earth which will never end?
It's been done many, many times. It has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
There is another virgin then, other than what Christians claim about Mary?
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^ good grief -- do we really need to go through this again?
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
If you believe in an evil being.
Allah knows all, who knows you could be a rapist, murderer, or maybe not.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
If you believe in an evil being.
Allah knows all, who knows you could be a rapist, murderer, or maybe not.
Would a rapist or murderer deserve everlasting punishment in fire hotter than any found on Earth?
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Depends on circumstances.
Circumstances? You mean, a mortal who lives a finite amount of time who rapes, who murders and so on, deserves to burn in fire hotter than any found on Earth without end? Where is that ever justified? Is the punishment not supposed to fit the crime, in regard to the discipline style of this being you worship?
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Yes, if they continue to do it without repentance and feel it to be justified and right.
They will be punished.
Although, remember once again i unequivocally state:
Allah is never Unjust in the least degree, and he is All-Knowing and All-Powerful.
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Yes, if they continue to do it without repentance and feel it to be justified and right.
They will be punished.
Although, remember once again i unequivocally state:
Allah is never Unjust in the least degree, and he is All-Knowing and All-Powerful.
Punishment lasting for an infinite duration is just? Even if the person, say a murderer, was never repentant of his actions, even as he was executed, I do not see how everlasting punishment is just.
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
Well brother.
Remember what i have said, it is not 100% accurate but anyhow lets take for example Hitler.
Do you think he deserves everlasting Punishment?
ThirtyThree
Well-Known Member
Well brother.
Remember what i have said, it is not 100% accurate but anyhow lets take for example Hitler.
Do you think he deserves everlasting Punishment?
No, I do not believe Hitler deserves everlasting punishment in fire hotter than any found on Earth. His crimes were monstrous. However, they were ultimately finite. Why would finite crimes be punished for an infinite period of time?
Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
What?
It is not just the finite crimes.
So, how many times should he be burned in Hell?