Jesus genes

[Unveiled Artist]

The body of flesh and blood is what makes Jesus half human, But what counts, who's inside of the body of Jesus, that counts.

The body of Jesus is just a covering
(shield) for God to come down here in,
This why Jesus said to one of his disciples, if you see me, you have seen the Father.

"Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?" John 14:9.

I dont mean to be rude, but that is creepy. I always wondered when such a thing can be possible in B.C. but stopped short in A.D. sometime.

But, I'd assume that if jesus was fully human, maybe his XY chromosome was a miracle too?

Humans arent just flesh and blood. So, I wouldn't consider jesus human like us if he is god incarnate.

 

[j1i]

I was reading another thread, and this question came to mind.

If jesus father isn't biological (virgin birth), he wouldn't have paternal genes. How does that work? Can one human be the only human within the last three thousand years to have no paternal genes as the rest of us do?

I'm not a gene specialist. Just wondering.

Very clever question
His genes are primitive like Adam
Thus God said in the religion of Islam
I do not know brother what said in you religion

3:59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was.

With respect

 

[pearl]

He has no human father in a biological sense. He may well have had "normal" dna, just from a divine source.

In his book 'Introduction to Christianity' which is basically a commentary on the Creed, then Joseph Ratzinger states " the conception of Jesus is new creation, not begetting by God. God does not become the biological father of Jesus, and neither the New Testament nor the theology of the Church has fundamentally ever seen in this narrative or in the event recounted in the ground for the real divinity of Jesus, his "Divine Sonship". According to the faith of the Church, the Divine Sonship of Jesus does not rest on the fact that Jesus had no human father, the doctrine of Jesus' divinity would not be affected if Jesus had been the product of a normal marriage. For the Divine Sonship of which faith speaks is not a biological but an ontological fact, an event not in time but in God's eternity; God is always Father, Son and Spirit; the conception of Jesus means, not that a new God-the-Son comes into being, but that God as Son in the man Jesus draws the creature man to himself, so that he himself "is" man.

No doubt the formula about the "physical" Divine Sonship of Jesus is extremely unfortunate and wide open to misunderstanding: it shows that for almost two thousand years theology has not succeeded in freeing its conceptual terminology from the shell of its Hellenistic origin. Obviously the being-from-God indicated by the word "physical" is meant to be taken, not on the plane of biological generation, but on the plane of the divine being and its eternity. The word is asserting that in Jesus human nature was assumed by him who from eternity belongs "physically" (=really, by his being) to the triune relationship of the divine love."

"Introduction to Christianity"
Pope Benedict XVI, then Joseph Ratzinger, 1968

 

[ChristineM]

Not by scientific methods.
Genetically Speaking scientifically, You're More Like Your Dad. You may have inherited your mother'seyes, but, genetically speaking, you use more DNApassed down from your father. That's the conclusion of a new study on mice that scientist researchers say likely applies to all mammals.Mar 3, 2015
Genetically Speaking, You're More Like Your Dad - D-brief
blogs.discovermagazine.com › 2015/03/03

You obviously did not understand or refuse to understand the blog. All humans receive one chromosome of each of their parents for all 23 chromosomes. Because all chromosomes contain MtDNA which is female, everyone (with a few rare exceptions) receives 23 female chromosomes and 23 male chromosomes containing a little female material. Hence, genetically speaking we all are more female than make.

What your article is saying (no matter how many times you repost it) is that male genetic material is more dominant. Which incidentally what i said

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Very clever question
His genes are primitive like Adam
Thus God said in the religion of Islam
I do not know brother what said in you religion

3:59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was.

With respect

He was born of a human with primitive male genes?

 

[Katzpur]

Is he human, though?

We believe He is human in appearance, but not "mortal." In other words, His body is perfect, and is not subject to disease, disfigurement or death. It is not sustained by blood flowing through His veins, but by pure spirit.

 

[nPeace]

Hm. I think it works where donors give their sperm to a sperm bank. I dont know why a miracle can be like that in say 44 B.C. (case in point) and just stopped short a good while after the apostles died.

I would say there was no fertilization. I guess the child just came into being.

So I will have to ask, Do you believe in a supernatural being capable of doing more powerful works than any mortal being like you and I?

By the way, I do not believe Jesus was god-man. I believe he was fully man - mortal like you and I, only not tainted by the genes of the fallen man, Adam.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

We believe He is human in appearance, but not "mortal." In other words, His body is perfect, and is not subject to disease, disfigurement or death. It is not sustained by blood flowing through His veins, but by pure spirit.

Interesting. I haven't heard it explained like that before.

 

[BilliardsBall]

I was reading another thread, and this question came to mind.

If jesus father isn't biological (virgin birth), he wouldn't have paternal genes. How does that work? Can one human be the only human within the last three thousand years to have no paternal genes as the rest of us do?

I'm not a gene specialist. Just wondering.

What kind of genes did Adam have? He was created specially, like Jesus Christ.

What kind of genes did Eve have?

Interestingly, blood on the Turin shroud has XX genes, not XY genes! (Jesus, born of Mary).

 

[Unveiled Artist]

So I will have to ask, Do you believe in a supernatural being capable of doing more powerful works than any mortal being like you and I?

By the way, I do not believe Jesus was god-man. I believe he was fully man - mortal like you and I, only not tainted by the genes of the fallen man, Adam.

What I believe does not relate to my question. That is like my asking you what two and two is and you ask, do you believe math.

The idea that a divine being can do anything even be god man is totally possible. If he could do anything I assume he can make a human with only XX chromosones. Who knows. Im not one to belittle christian beliefs. I was just wondering if jesus had no biological father, does he have XY chromosones; how does that work.

Is he a different type of human? What is he?

 

[j1i]

He was born of a human with primitive male genes?

I'm not sure but this verse of Quran explain that we was human with the similarities of Adam's genes
3:59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was

 

[Unveiled Artist]

What kind of genes did Adam have? He was created specially, like Jesus Christ.

What kind of genes did Eve have?

Interestingly, blood on the Turin shroud has XX genes, not XY genes! (Jesus, born of Mary).

Adam and eve wasnt born of a human. Jesus was. Adam and Eve arent an incarnations. Jesus was. Adam and eve are not sinless. Jesus was.

So they are different. When jesus was born of a woman, he took on his mothers XX chromosones. But to make him male, he needs that Y. How does that work?

 

[j1i]

So I will have to ask, Do you believe in a supernatural being capable of doing more powerful works than any mortal being like you and I?

By the way, I do not believe Jesus was god-man. I believe he was fully man - mortal like you and I, only not tainted by the genes of the fallen man, Adam.

answer is beautiful but I want to comment
God has forgiven Adam of sin, but has brought him down to live in conflict with Satan
Both fell together

Therefore, some people call the satan the (falling angel) while it is of a race other than the sex of the angels

In Arabic we call it the iblis
It may be the same as Lucifer in Cristian's

iblis Who refused to prostrate to Adam
We mean prostration here to prostrate to God but passed through Adam

GOOD luck

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I'm not sure but this verse of Quran explain that we was human with the similarities of Adam's genes
3:59. The likeness of Jesus in God’s sight is that of Adam: He created him from dust, then said to him, “Be,” and he was

I can kinda understand adam. If jesus appeared like Adam, scripturally (what is the Qur'an view of Creation?) He come from dust. Jesus was born of a woman so, unless he just popped into Mary's womb, I dont see the relationship.

 

[Sanzbir]

I find this coming up often and I find it hilarious.

The idea that we accept the premise of immaculate conception, thus that God miraculously impregnated a woman, and yet we question how the genetics of a man with only a mother should work.

If we're accepting the premise that God can and did make the woman pregnant, is it too much to think that He'd be able to spontaneously create the paternal genes of Jesus?? What's with the assumption he wouldn't have half of his genes??

The most hilarious variant of this is the idea that Jesus must have been a woman because without a father he wouldn't have a Y chromosome (yes, I've seen posts proposing this very thing)... it's just odd. Why accept the idea that God can cause someone to become pregnant but not then just assume God created a Y chromosome out of nothing to facilitate this??

Why do these types of posts assume one miracle but not another similar one??

 

[Unveiled Artist]

We believe He is human in appearance, but not "mortal." In other words, His body is perfect, and is not subject to disease, disfigurement or death. It is not sustained by blood flowing through His veins, but by pure spirit.

Hm. This is what bothers me about jesus supernaturalness. I wonder if we took him as he is and made him exist today would people believe him. I dont see time difference (and genetics) different from B.C. and today, but I guess people back then live in a more spirit-ual world?

I don't even know.

 

[j1i]

I can kinda understand adam. If jesus appeared like Adam, scripturally (what is the Qur'an view of Creation?) He come from dust. Jesus was born of a woman so, unless he just popped into Mary's womb, I dont see the relationship.

Miracle of God
Through Gabriel, he blew up her belly, and she became pregnant

The prostration of Adam is a tribute to the human race
Humans, including Jesus, are of Adam's race

But Jesus is without human sperm

 

[Jainarayan]

So, I guess in jesus case, for him to be born of a virgin without a biological father, he would need to be a clone. Interesting.

You could look at it that way, but he'd have to be a clone of something, another male who was identical to him in every way. Of course, if one believes that Jesus is God (I'm not sure if he is, but it's largely irrelevant to me anyway), God can do anything he wants or needs to do to get a job done. He could easily manipulate or create DNA for this particular instance.

We can run into the same thing in Hinduism with Krishna. He was born as a human male, but he is God, i.e. Vishnu incarnated. His brother Balarama is said to be an incarnation of Adi Sesha, accompanying his Lord to Earth. Maa Durga took birth as a human girl simply to deliver a message to the king who was trying to kill Krishna. When the king tried to kill her as a baby, she assumed her divine form, scared the crap out of him, then disappeared. Rama is a slightly different case, because he is Vishnu in human form, but he had a mortal mother and father. Whose DNA did Krishna and Rama have? As fully mortal men, they had to have human DNA.

The bottom line is that those of us with a particular faith would do well to not think too long and hard on things we really can't and maybe shouldn't understand. In the Lord of the Rings Gandalf told Saruman, who was deep into dabbling into the black arts, that "He that breaks a thing to find out what it is has left the path of wisdom." George Harrison said something similar in one of his songs "...the mind that wants to wander 'round the corner is an unwise mind."

 

[Jainarayan]

Obviously, Jesus was Female. That's what you get, with Parthenogenesis (birth without fertilization from a male). We have observed this in Rabbits and other prolific species, but never in humans, as far as I know.

So, really, Jesus would have to have XX genes, and SHE would be a clone of Mary.

With some reptiles,crocodiles, alligators, turtles, the temperature of the incubating nest determines the sex of the babies. I don't know if that holds true for parthenogenesis in reptiles.

 

[Jainarayan]

I would love to see a female Jesus. Long hair kissing the disciples.

That would give the Catholics a run for their money.

Hey why not? Vishnu took on a female avatar and seduced Shiva. They had a son, Lord Ayyappa. Jesus see, Jesus do?