Jesus is all that really matters

[sojourner]

God owns the cattle on a thousand hills. God provides every need.

We’re not doing a real great job of distributing the wealth, feeding the sheep or the 5000.

 

[sojourner]

The strait and narrow way. It's a struggle just to stay on it.

No it’s not. Science shows us that. What’s difficult is overcoming inertia to change direction. We are all placed on a trajectory that is true. Then we spend a whole lotta time trying to change direction just to miss the target we’re intended to hit.

 

[Rival]

He has already come. Dispensationalism is evangelical BS.

The messiah hasn't come. Not at all.

 

[sojourner]

You wont have to wait much longer mate, the Day of the Lord is almost upon us, The great Sabbath is about to dawn.

Wait... isn’t every day a gift from God? Doesn’t every day belong to God?

 

[sojourner]

Except Jesus said 'this generation'.

Your point? Just because you didn’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

 

[sojourner]

I've heard this a thousand times.

Gets tiresome, eh?

 

[Rival]

Your point? Just because you didn’t see it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

It self-evidently hasn't happened according to the prophecies about the messiah.

 

[sojourner]

Joe Pesci is all that matters.
He's all our sufficiency,
All our grace
All our power
All our strength
All our Righteousness
All our peace
All our Love
All our light

I have exactly as much evidence to back up my claim as you have evidence to back up yours.

It’s not about evidence.

 

[sojourner]

Good post, but honestly not comparable with Jesus. Joe Pesci has far more evidence.

Ciao

- viole

And a MUCH better-looking girlfriend...

 

[sojourner]

I find God blesses effort. If you put forth the effort then you give God something to bless.
- 1 Timothy 5:8; 2 Thessalonians 3:10

Reciprocity and right relationship is the name of the game.

 

[74x12]

“The” Church. There’s only one body of Christ — according to the Bible ... and Tradition.

Of course, yet there are many "churches" that is "assemblies". Like in the book of Revelation there is prophecy to the 7 churches of Asia Minor.

So although there is definitely only one church/temple of God. Also known as the body of Christ. Yet, there are many local churches/assemblies.

 

[sojourner]

First of all I find the setting or time frame for Revelation to take place is for our day as per Revelation 1:10.
Revelation was written for people who lived ' after ' the first century.

As to how much long to wait: We are at the ' final phase ' of Matthew 24:14 in the international proclaiming about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44, so that means we are nearing the ' final signal ' of 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when ' they ' (powers that be) will be saying, " Peace and Security " as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.

Yikes! Theologically, just, Yikes!

 

[sojourner]

Of course you are responsible for your own actions as was Jesus and the rest of us.
Seems to me Jehovah's Witnesses do 'put one leg behind the other' because walking is how they arrive at one's door.
- www.jw.org

They’d be walking backward...

 

[sojourner]

......But I find you have Not heard the saying of " Peace and Security " as of yet.
When the 'powers that be' are saying, " Peace and Security " as per 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 that is the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
Since the international proclaiming about God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 is being done on a global scale as never before in history just as Jesus said at Matthew 24:14; Acts 1:8 then the soon coming ' time of separation ' on Earth of Matthew 25:31-33,37,40 is also near at hand.

Gozer the Traveller - he will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldronaii, the Traveller came as a large and moving Torb! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the Meketrex supplicants, they chose a new form for him - that of a giant Sloar! Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you!

 

[sojourner]

I find Matthew chapter 24 has both a ' minor' and a 'MAJOR' fulfillment.
The ' minor' one was fullfilled in the year 70 when the Roman armies destroyed un-faithful Jerusalem.
The 'MAJOR' fulfillment is set for our day or time frame 'the generation of Revelation 7:14'.

...except that Matthew isn’t a prophecy... it’s a gospel.

 

[sojourner]

The messiah hasn't come. Not at all.

So you say. But then, you don’t have a lot of theological street cred.

 

[sojourner]

Well don’t worry about that mate, cos you won’t hear it too many more times.

We might not know the hour or the day, but when we see the signs that we were warned to watch for, then we will know that the time is near.

From the Book of Jubilees 4: 30; “And He (Adam) lacked seventy years of one thousand years; for one thousand years are as one day in the testimony of the heavens and therefore was it written concerning the tree of knowledge: ‘On the day thou eat thereof ye shall die.’ For this reason, Adam did not complete the years of that first day; for He died during it.”

In Colossians 2: 16-17; Paul has this to say; “Let no one make rules about what you eat or drink or about holidays or the New Moon festival or the Sabbath. All these are but a shadow of things to come in the future, etc.”

Adam died in the first day at the age of 930, we are now at the closing of the sixth day, the day before the Great Sabbath that is the reality of the weekly Sabbath, ‘The Day of the Lord’ the seventh period of one thousand years in which the lord shall rule with justice, the Great Sabbath of one thousand years.

According to Jewish time, the first destruction of the Temple of Solomon, was 3338 AM, which is 3338 years from Adam. Our time for that destruction of the temple is 587 BC. So adding 587 to 3338, we see that from Adam the father of Seth, to 1 BC=1AD there is 3925 years, add to that the current date, 2018, (3,925+2018=5,943).

According to these dates, which are very ambiguous, we are now living in the 5,943 rd year from Adam the father of Seth, which supposedly leaves us another 57 years before the close of the 6th day and the beginning of the 7th, which is the great Sabbath, “The Day of the Lord” the seventh period of one thousand years from the day that Adam ate of the forbidden fruit and died in that first day at the age of 930, which Sabbath Day begins after the greatest period of tribulation that this world has ever seen, and we are told in scripture, “But for the intervention of the Lord, no flesh would survive that period of tribulation.”

Acts 17: 30-31; God has overlooked the times when people did not know him, but now he commands all of them everywhere to turn away from their evil ways. For He has fixed a day [The Great Sabbath] in which he shall judge the whole world with justice by means of a MAN he has CHOSEN. He has given proof to everyone by raising that MAN [Jesus] from death.

Sounds like so much fuzzy math...

 

[sojourner]

I wish it was that simple. Nonetheless, I tell the truth. Demons are always keeping people from the truth. They're always putting curses on people and spiritual or mental binds. They don't allow people to see the truth.

Yeeahh... too much D&D will do that to you...

 

[Rival]

So you say. But then, you don’t have a lot of theological street cred.

I might not have, but the Scriptures have. And the Scriptures say the messiah will reunite the ten tribes, bring offers to the Temple, and bring peace to the Jews.

Literally none of this has happened.

 

[sojourner]

One of the worst tribulations that the earth has suffered in recent times occurred some 75,000 years ago with the Toba super eruption, which was a super volcanic eruption that occurred sometime between 69,000 and 77,000 years ago at Lake Toba (Sumatra Indonesia). It is recognised as one of earth’s largest eruptions.

Thousands of cubic kilometres of material would have been blasted out into the stratosphere blocking out the light all over the world, turning the sun and moon into huge blood red orbs and causing the earth’s temperature to drop some 21% and it would possibly have been a thousand years, before rainbows could form in our atmosphere again.

The related catastrophe theory holds that this event plunged the planet into a 6 to 10 year volcanic winter and possibly an additional 1,000 year cooling episode. This change in temperature resulted in the world’s proto-human population being reduced to 10,000 or even a mere 1,000 breeding pairs, creating a bottleneck in human evolution.

Could an eruption such as this, be more of a blessing, than a curse, could a protective shield around the earth to protect us from increased heavenly radiation for a period of time, be established, to give us time to prepare for the ultimate end of all physical life forms that remain on this planet, and if so how?

The huge column of molten rock that feeds Yellowstone's "super volcano" dives deeper and fills a magma chamber 20 percent bigger than previous estimates, scientists say. The finding, based on the most detailed model yet of the region's geologic plumbing, suggests that Yellowstone's magma chamber contains even more fuel for a future "super eruption" than anyone had suspected.

The model shows that a 45-mile-wide (72-kilometer-wide) plume of hot, molten rock rises to feed the super volcano from at least 410 miles (660 kilometers) beneath Earth's surface. The deepest part of the plume actually sits beneath the town of Wisdom, Montana, about 150 miles (241 kilometers) from Yellowstone National Park, a steady flow of hot rock in Earth's upper mantle causes the plume to drift to the southeast, where it fills a magma chamber that sits just 3.7 to 10 miles (5.9 to 16 kilometers) beneath Yellowstone.

Other new data show that Yellowstone's magma chamber extends 13 miles (21 kilometers) farther to the northeast than previously thought. Scientists had already known that Yellowstone is a volcanic hot spot, and that within the past two million years, the region has seen three mammoth eruptions at intervals of about 600,000 years, and it is 640,000 years since it’s last eruption. Such events it is said, can produce at least 77 cubic miles (360 cubic kilometers) of basalt: enough to bury Washington, D.C., under nearly 7,200 feet (2,200 meters) of solidified lava.

The ground beneath Yellowstone is said to be 74cm higher today than it was in 1923, which indicates a massive swelling beneath the Park. Scientists believe that the reservoir of Magma is filling at an alarming rate and as that volcano erupts with an average cycle of 600,000 years and the last eruption was more than 640,000 years ago we are overdue for annihilation.

Forget about the death total within the immediate period of the explosive eruption, but just imagine what happens to our communication and ground and air transport systems, fuel supplies, power grids, atomic power stations spewing out radiation into the atmosphere, etc, etc.

What did Jesus say concerning that day? "Pray that your flight be not in winter, (The nuclear/volcanic winter) and woe unto the women who are pregnant in those days, perhaps the evolutionary son of man, came from mutants that are to be born in those days.

Zechariah 14: 6; And it shall come to pass in that day, (The Lord’s Day of one thousand years) that the light shall not be clear or dark: and it shall be one day which shall be known to the Lord, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that evening time it shall be light. On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter. The LORD will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one LORD, and his name the only name.

Could the Great prophesied war in the Middle East be the trigger to set off the volcano beneath Yellowstone, bringing in a thousand year period of twilight in which rainbows can't form in our atmosphere? And when, according to Isaiah 65: 20, "If one were to die during that period at the age of 100, they would be but a child.

Revelation 20: 7-9: It is after the thousand years have ended (How long after? Nobody knows.) that the last trumpet will sound and the fire from heaven descends and incinerates the surface of this planet as prophesied by Zephaniah.

Zephaniah 1: 2; The Lord said, 'I am going to destroy everything on earth, all human beings and animals, birds and fish. I will bring about the downfall of the wicked. I will destroy all mankind, and no survivors will be left. I the Lord have spoken."

Verse 18; On the day when the Lord shows his fury, not even all their silver and gold will save them. The whole earth will be destroyed by the fire of his anger. He will put an end--- a sudden end----to everyone who lives on earth.

But all shall not fall asleep in death, for at the sound of the last trumpet, the chosen will be changed in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, from bodies of corruptible matter, into glorious bodies of incorruptible blinding light.

“Oh, Crash, you do make speeches.”