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Jesus is at the Door

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Hmmmm....does he like you as a historical figure I wonder?
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The OP on this thread and those who subscribe to it just make me laugh.....they could not be further from the truth... but no matter....they don't want the truth because they can't imagine that it will ever happen.....did we imagine that the current situation would ever happen? Things can sneak up on you when you least expect them.....

Be careful of "famous last words syndrome"....
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Do you think the comic is wrong?

I'd think JW is one of the ones who'd get it most. One god set up the gift and consequence criteria for salvation and rejection.

Is this not so?

Does it say in scripture everyone is saved despite their beliefs and behaviors?

The point is the same regardless if a Christian or atheist says it.

(...that...and most likely those who see him as a historical figure won't be able to a answer how Jesus feels about their view. How can they if they know he died?)
 
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Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
Another example is "they have no excuse" verse. Jesus knocks, you say no, he says "you've already known me, you have no excuse" does he just let you be?

Some Christians think we atheists have no excuse, yet they make a lot of claims but don't produce sufficient evidence of those claims. Even if someone claimed he was Jesus and did a whole lot of things we couldn't explain, there is still no reason to say that God did it.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Some Christians think we atheists have no excuse, yet they make a lot of claims but don't produce sufficient evidence of those claims. Even if someone claimed he was Jesus and did a whole lot of things we couldn't explain, there is still no reason to say that God did it.

Shrugs. It's irrelevant to me so I guess I do have no excuse. This only is a concern to believes though. The intent is probably the same-more of a fear technique. Don't know.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
That's the fake Jesus, actually

The real Jesus won't knock on your door, ring on your bell or tap on your window too.
When he comes back, it would be with a vengeance and no warning.
Saving days are over, we are packing up and time to blow things up - that sort of thing

Matthew 13:40-42 New International Version (NIV)
“As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

So it kinda look like this.

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He is no hippie as various Catholic art works portray him to be.
During his time sporting long hair is taboo.
He is no white man, Caucasian but has middle eastern features

Again there will be no knockin'

2 Peter 3:8-13 New International Version (NIV)
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

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There won't be a knock its more like a whoooooshhhh!
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
That's the fake Jesus, actually

The real Jesus won't knock on your door, ring on your bell or tap on your window too.
When he comes back, it would be with a vengeance and no warning.
Saving days are over, we are packing up and time to blow things up - that sort of thing

Matthew 13:40-42 New International Version (NIV)
“As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

So it kinda look like this.

source.gif


He is no hippie as various Catholic art works portray him to be.
During his time sporting long hair is taboo.
He is no white man, Caucasian but has middle eastern features

Again there will be no knockin'

2 Peter 3:8-13 New International Version (NIV)
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.

Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

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There won't be a knock its more like a whoooooshhhh!

I hope you don't actually believe this??

Reminds me of Terminator 2 for some reason.

This is cute
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
I hope you don't actually believe this??

Reminds me of Terminator 2 for some reason.

I actually believe what must be believed.
What Jesus said is somewhat similar to what Arny said:

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But Jesus said it first and this is recorded in the Bible:

John 14:2-4 New International Version (NIV)
My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going.”

If I don't believe what is written in the Bible and what Jesus said, then I would not be taken when he comes back. Apparently, you are not expecting to be in the place where Jesus went. Its a promise by the way.
 

Samael_Khan

Qigong / Yang Style Taijiquan / 7 Star Mantis
I actually believe what must be believed.
What Jesus said is somewhat similar to what Arny said:

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But Jesus said it first and this is recorded in the Bible:

John 14:2-4 New International Version (NIV)
My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going.”

If I don't believe what is written in the Bible and what Jesus said, then I would not be taken when he comes back. Apparently, you are not expecting to be in the place where Jesus went. Its a promise by the way.

Why do you think that the Bible is to be trusted and is the word of God in the first place?

Atheists would actually believe if there was convincing conclusive evidence that the bible is accurate as a whole and that it was written by God.

But even believing such isn't enough to be saved according to the Bible. One must exercise faith and actually want to follow that God.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
If I don't believe what is written in the Bible and what Jesus said, then I would not be taken when he comes back. Apparently, you are not expecting to be in the place where Jesus went. Its a promise by the way.

Of course not. I'm just still shocked people still believe the world is going to end like in the movies. I mean, I read a lot of books and watch a lot of movies, but not so much to where people come back from the dead. It's a belief. When you use your beliefs as facts to scare people or make people feel guilt for not "looking in your direction," that's where problems arise.

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The beliefs are interesting, but the guilt, fear, and indoctrination? (Remember. People got killed and arrested for not following what people who believe the bible say: Sodomy Laws And these are just sexual sins in 2003). Can you imagine so many people still believe this and the world ending and....

Anyway, it's in you guys' language. I'm surprised you guys either can't see it or, to the point, you don't see it doing any harm to people. It's amazing.
 
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Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm....does he like you as a historical figure I wonder?
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The OP on this thread and those who subscribe to it just make me laugh.....they could not be further from the truth... but no matter....they don't want the truth because they can't imagine that it will ever happen.....did we imagine that the current situation would ever happen? Things can sneak up on you when you least expect them.....

Be careful of "famous last words syndrome"....
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That's right. We better be scared because Jesus is coming on the clouds to rain judgment on all of us. Never mind that he told his 1st century disciples in Matthew 16:28, "some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Oops.:tearsofjoy:
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Perhaps an attitude of many but not the real teachings of Christianity.

I have read the bible, several in fact. It is surely the teachings of the OT

And the NT, see...

Mark 16:15-16
Matthew 28:19
2 Timothy 4:2

Yes, it is the teaching of the NT too
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Atheists tend to go by evidence and its evident that is the attitude of many christians
I think that depends on how you view things. It's like blaming the judge for what he did when he sent you to jail for lying under oath.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I think that depends on how you view things. It's like blaming the judge for what he did when he sent you to jail for lying under oath.

Somewhat different being a representative of the law and imposing your faith on those who don't want it
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
One cannot compress the entire teachings of the Bible into three verses.

So cherry pick, it seems to work for christians. But ignoring the verses you don't like does not make them go away.

You made a statement, the bible disproves that statement whether it's 3 verses (there are more) or the whole book does not mattet
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
I have read the bible, several in fact. It is surely the teachings of the OT

And the NT, see...

Mark 16:15-16
Matthew 28:19
2 Timothy 4:2

Yes, it is the teaching of the NT too
That verse reminds me why I don't read the Bible

The New Testament is as bad as the old; judging

Thereby hypocritical also
 
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