Jesus, Liberal or Conservative

[IndigoChild5559]

Jesus was neither Pharisee nor Saducee.

The Pharisees were into belief in God and angels and obedience to the commandments, but they followed the simple commandments while not always following the heavier commandments like relate to love.

The Sadducees denied many aspects of the religion. They were kind of like atheists.

Typical christian bigotry against pharisees. Nor were Sadducees anything like atheist. wow. just wow.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Typical christian bigotry against pharisees. Nor were Sadducees anything like atheist. wow. just wow.

I don't see how anything he said was bigoted. And the Sadducees denied the existence of angels and the resurrection, as I understand it.

 

[Riders]

He said about Ceasor render unto Ceasor what are Ceasors. I don't believe he would be political at all, there is too much division because of it.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

I don't see how anything he said was bigoted. And the Sadducees denied the existence of angels and the resurrection, as I understand it.

Yes, but they did not deny the existence of God. Basically, the were a "Torah only" group. Certainly not atheist.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Typical christian bigotry against pharisees. Nor were Sadducees anything like atheist. wow. just wow.

I am so sorry for what I typed!
I completely forgot that Jews were real people in these groups!
I was trying to paint how Jesus felt about them, but I have offended you probably beyond repair.

I am sure the Saducees believed in God if you say so. I just pictured them closer to the side of atheists than the Pharisees, a little on that side.

 

[Kathryn]

"Conservative" and "liberal" are broad terms with multiple possible meanings. If you mean conservative and liberal in the modern American political sense, I would say neither. His paradigm would have been completely off the map of either ideology.

Hey, check this out - we agree! That's why I have a difficult time voting for anyone who identifies as either a conservative or a liberal - because they mean it in the modern American political sense.

 

[Left Coast]

Hey, check this out - we agree! That's why I have a difficult time voting for anyone who identifies as either a conservative or a liberal - because they mean it in the modern American political sense.

I'm not wedded to agreeing with everything Jesus is believed to have said, so I don't have that same struggle. But hey - I'll take agreement where I can get it.

 

[Valjean]

He said about Ceasor render unto Ceasor what are Ceasors. I don't believe he would be political at all, there is too much division because of it.

I think he was dodging a "gotcha!" question with this reply.

 

[crossfire]

Jesus was a hippy liberal.

 

[Kathryn]

I'm not wedded to agreeing with everything Jesus is believed to have said, so I don't have that same struggle. But hey - I'll take agreement where I can get it.

Just don't make assumptions about me and we'll be fine - I'll try and do the same by the way.

 

[viole]

give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?

conservative. I cannot imagine a liberal monarchist.

ciao

- viole

 

[Jimmy]

A righteous dude.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If Jesus was a liberal then why do people see Jesus as a conservative icon?

 

[crossfire]

If Jesus was a liberal then why do people see Jesus as a conservative icon?

Are you talking about Jesus or Jesus™?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

give what has been written in any of the recognized canons, would jesus be recognized as conservative or liberal?

Depends on how cynical I want to be

 

[Valjean]

If Jesus was a liberal then why do people see Jesus as a conservative icon?

They make him in their own image, rather than judge him by his words.

 

[Fool]

I would say liberal.

Why? Because per Jesus, an individual human could not take responsibility for their own sin/evil doings. They were not on their own able to correct their negative proclivities.
Humans needed a higher authority to keep them in line. To be there to correct their misbehavior. Without this higher authority, it would be impossible for the individual human to be moral.

If Jesus were conservative, he'd have been more the "you break it, you fix it" kind of prophet. He would have insisted that the individual take responsibility for their own misdeeds and not go about telling people to let someone else pay the price for their errors.

jesus taught service to all as self vs service to self. the service only to self type isn't liberal. one can find a higher self within by listening to the what the Spirit has to say. the choice comes from within

jesus had a problem with the traditionalists/conservatives of his time.


Synonyms of traditionalist | Thesaurus.com

 

[Fool]

Jesus was politically neutral. Jesus and his 1st-century followers did Not even get involved in the issues of the day between the Jews and Romans but remained politically neutral.

religions can be conservative or liberal and most political beliefs are based off of spiritual beliefs.

 

[Nakosis]

jesus had a problem with the traditionalists/conservatives of his time.

I'd imagine so since they didn't really have much need for him.

 

[Fool]

"Conservative" and "liberal" are broad terms with multiple possible meanings. If you mean conservative and liberal in the modern American political sense, I would say neither. His paradigm would have been completely off the map of either ideology.

political beliefs aren't disconnected from one's typical belief system in general. unless you have dissassociative disorder.